Should I upgrade from Vegas Pro 14 to Vegas Pro 15?

[George Dean]

Hi Rick,

In the Project Properties window, just below ‘Stereoscopic 3D mode’ and above ‘Pixel format’, is a line. What is above the line is what is ‘Matched’ to the source media. What is below the line is the options for processing and working within your project.

In ProRes 4:2:2 10 bit, the 10 is referring to ‘bit depth’. In Vegas Properties the 8 (or 32) is referring to the pixel format. In the ‘Project Properties’ window at the top right if you click on the ‘question mark (?)’ the help file pops up. Scroll down to ‘Pixel format’ and read from there through ‘Compositing gamma’, which should explain it.

Best Regards……George

[Rick Kersey]

Thanks George.
That explains 8 vs 32-bit. But there is a problem:

just below ‘Stereoscopic 3D mode’ and above ‘Pixel format’, is a line that is entirely grayed out.
I selected “3D mode” and the line says something about crosstalk cancellation. I’m thinking there’s no 10-bit selection in Vegas Pro v.12

whatdoyouthink?

Destiny Calls

[George Dean]

Well Rick, actually I try not to think to hard about this stuff because it gives me a headache and keeps me up at nite!!! And, in addition I have never done any Stereoscopic 3D, so have no idea what that means. Are you actually shooting with two cameras and two Ninja Flames to get the source required to produce 3D? If so, you certainly know more about it than I do, but regardless it will not have anything to do will 10 bit, only perhaps to be more specific that Matching Media above the grey line does not necessarily include the 3D stuff.

Best Regards……George

[Rick Kersey]

OK,
I’m not very good at explaining myself I guess. I don’t use 3D

what I was trying to say is – there is no indication in “properties”that the recording is recognized as 10-bit.

I just below ‘Stereoscopic 3D mode’ and above ‘Pixel format’, There is no line. There is nothing other than the reference made to some 3D settings. I don’t have a clue how to use 3D either but there are those who do.

Destiny Calls

[George Dean]

Hi Rick,

Well I don’t have Vegas Pro 12 and my trial version has long ago expired, but there is a line above ‘Pixel format:’ in SVP 13, MVP15, and MVP16. But, to be more specific, items like ‘Width’, ‘Height’, ‘Field order’, ‘Pixel aspect ratio’, ‘Output rotation’, and ‘Frame rate’ should be the project properties set when you Match Media. Not always, but usually. Years ago I had some source media which did not match when I selected Match Media, but almost all the source media I have used does work with Match Media. Further there is nothing in Project Properties that specifies ‘bit depth’ regardless if the source media is 8 bit or 10 bit. If you use the ‘Properties’ window if your source media, there is nothing there I have ever seen that will determine if the clip is 8 or 10 bit. I use Mediainfo to determine the source media spec and it sometimes will not display bit depth, than a format that specifies within it’s standards the bit depth.

By the way Rick, out of curiosity, what camera are you using with your Ninja Flame?

Best Regards……George

[Rick Kersey]

So I’ve decided to buy the upgrade today. The advertised price was $249. BUT when I got to checkout it was suddenly $599. Gack. what is this? so thinking I must have done something wrong I went back out and started over again. This time it was $299 which of course is $50 more than advertised. I stopped trying. Not sure what this is all about but make me think I’ should take my chances with Premier. Not an Adobe fan – yet.

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[Rick Kersey]

Thanks for your response.
I’m using the Sony A7iii. Do you know something about this camera? I have a question about it too. There is a menu option for HDMI output to connect with the Ninja Flame. The highest resolution option is 2160/1080p – not 3840/2160. I’m thinking it doesn’t output UHD.
whatdoyouthink?

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[George Dean]

Thank You for the camera info Rick. I am not familiar with the A7iii camera (other than what I have read online), but if you have it hooked up, are getting a signal to the Ninja Flame, the highest resolution setting available from that camera to the Ninja Flame, will be available in the Ninja Flame setup. Even if that did not show UHD, I would place a call to tech support at Atomos. If you haven’t already spoke with them, I think you will find they are quit knowledgeable on what camera will work at what resolution and frame rate settings. And of course, I would check to make sure the A7iii and Ninja Flame have the latest available firmware installed.

I’m using a GH4 and have great success with UHD and S-Log in HDR, although I record mostly in Avid DNxHR, I also have success recording ProRes HQ.

Best Regards……George

[Rick Kersey]

Hi George,
I have a GH4 too and love it. Never thought about connecting it to the Ninja. That could be done. I used the GH4 to record stage performances. It doesn’t work that well in low light. Ah me. So I bought the A7iii. It has limits too I’m finding. If I saved my money long enough I might have been able to buy super duper camera. But then I’d be out of work.
Thanks for your comments,
Rick

Destiny Calls

[George Dean]

I’m already out of work (retired), but have a long list of cameras in including the GH5, Blackmagic cinema, a Sony, and actually I like 2 or 3 of everything! Thing is I only need the GH4/Ninja Flame combo for what I do and that is probably over kill, because a lot of it is action taken with a GoPro!!!

If you connect the HDMI with the GH4 and Ninja Flame, I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the results you can get. I understand the GH5 has better low light, but I doubt that is as good as the Sony 7 series.

Best of Luck.

Best Regards……George