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  • Tore Gresdal

    May 18, 2005 at 11:40 am

    Now audio slippage on miniDV material is something I have heard of. I thought you were talking about frame accurate batch capture and that the capture device wouldn’t hit the exact frame while capturing. You didn’t mention anything about audio slippage… if I was more experienced maybe I would have known, but yet again you could have been more specific in your post:

    Quote from previous post:
    [Pixel Monkey]
    Just for the DV, DVCam and MiniDV record, all them formats suck timecode wise. A small number of us editors really don’t care about the timecode that was shot in the field, because we demand that it all get upconverted to a more stable format with new timecode anyway. There’s just too many cases of up to 6 frames of slippage upon batch digitizing. Too many edit schedules are destroyed by the “miniDV slip”.

    I am only guessing here, but too me the combination of high speed capture and use of miniDV material could cause problems as minDV don’t have audio lock and use a track pitch of only 10 micron.

    Quote from DVinfo.net [Rhett Allen]
    March 10th, 2002, 02:03 AM
    Quickly, the difference is DV has a track pitch of 10 micron, DVCAM is 15 micron and DVCPro is 18 micron. DV has unlocked audio, DVCAM has locked audio and DVCPro has an analog audio reference track. What this means is that only DVCAM will sync the audio exactly to every frame in the video while DV (and mini DV) will allow the audio to slip out of sync, especially on long takes. The plus side is that the slip is not that bad (usually only a few frames per min).
    DVCAM and DVCPro write SMPTE time code not DVTC (consumer). And although you can use DV tape to record DVCAM, the DVCAM tape is made with MUCH higher tolerances and quality materials and has the optional micro chip for added features and labeling.
    The actual quality difference is still limited to 500 lines in any format but the DVCAM (and DVCPro) formats are built for professional use (and abuse).

  • Mark Frazier

    June 23, 2005 at 8:32 pm

    I wouldn’t let photographer ego get in your way of any checklist. Even the most experienced pilots use a checklist each and every time they get in their plane, be it a Piper Cub or a 767. That way, they have less of a chance of ending up in a smoking hole in the ground.

    And I agree that the photog and editor need to get together before the shoot, but the photog also needs to spend time in the edit bay as the project comes together to see what he missed, could have done better, or what can and can’t be “fixed in post”.

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