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  • Steve Connor

    December 19, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    [Don Walker] “Please, Please Please, somebody tell me that it’s there, but overlooked in all the excitement! Please?!

    Sadly it’s not. I’m not sure it ever will be!

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Mitch Ives

    December 19, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Sadly it’s not. I’m not sure it ever will be!”

    Sad, sad, sad…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.

    “Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

  • Herb Sevush

    December 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Sadly it’s not. I’m not sure it ever will be!”

    At this point I think FCPX is the only NLE on the market that doesn’t have an easy round-trip relationship with a EFX/GFX program. The fact that you can use Motion to create EFX’s within FCPX but can’t use it in round-trip fashion is utterly bizarre.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Bret Williams

    December 19, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    I would agree. Motion’s usefulness is hampered many times over. Since a full copy of motion is said to actually reside within FCP X (and that would make sense since you can use a motion project in X without having motion), perhaps they have even bigger plans. But it just seems like a no-brainer to have the roundtrip function back. I have to believe there’s just some issue still to work out, and it hasn’t made it up the list yet.

  • Charlie Austin

    December 19, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    [Bret Williams] “perhaps they have even bigger plans.”

    There’s a new API in X designed for “sharing” things between X and other apps. I would not be at all surprised to see something like what you guys want appear. 10.1 is a huge foundational overhaul to the app. Now they can start to build on this foundation. Should be interesting. 😉

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  • Charlie Austin

    December 19, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “The fact that you can use Motion to create EFX’s within FCPX but can’t use it in round-trip fashion is utterly bizarre.”

    I think this is because there was no mechanism for apps to talk to X. Nobody’s talking about it, but there is now. 10.1 has a Custom Share API. I think we’ll see some interesting things going forward….

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  • Andy Neil

    December 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “At this point I think FCPX is the only NLE on the market that doesn’t have an easy round-trip relationship with a EFX/GFX program.”

    Which is Avids?

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Herb Sevush

    December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “I think this is because there was no mechanism for apps to talk to X. “

    But we’re not talking about 3rd party apps, we’re talking about the guys on the same team, linking software that is already compatible enough so that you can create EFX’s in one to play in the other. I’m sure there is a good technical reason why this has been so difficult to do, but to a luddite like me it “seems” absurd.

    If Adobe created a new version of PPro that couldn’t round trip with AE people would go bananas. I think it’s the fact that Motion isn’t as widely accepted, although I use it all the time, that allows this to be such a non-issue.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    December 19, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    [Andy Neil] “Which is Avids?”

    Boris Red, which is packaged as Adobe FX I believe.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Michael Hancock

    December 19, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    AvidFX, aka BorisRed. It’s in the Avid effect palette. Add it to a clip, open the effect editor and hit a button and Boris opens up. Close Boris and you’re back in the Avid timeline with the effect(s) applied. I believe it still comes with Media Composer.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

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