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scrutinising FCPX and john davidson’s timelapse.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Or that, quad core i7s on any other platform but the Mac OS, are professional, but are somehow bandaged ‘near consumer’ when put in an iMac.
“Jeremy, I don’t know a single person who thinks of a quad core i7 as “near consumer” on OS X or anything else. That’s a discussion I’ve never had with anybody. And, if it were a discussion I were to have with somebody, it is something I would vigorously disagree with.
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Hi, Chris. It started this thread.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “…post production masking for dodge and burn, and effects handling all in realtime at 1080P and above on near consumer hardware – are actually outweighing his ability to work in apple’s defined core editing workspace, the primary. “
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Hi, Chris. It started this thread.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “…post production masking for dodge and burn, and effects handling all in realtime at 1080P and above on near consumer hardware – are actually outweighing his ability to work in apple’s defined core editing workspace, the primary. ”
“I apparently don’t read that line the same way you do. Aindreas is talking about the plus side of FCP X, and how well it performs on even near-consumer hardware. He’s not attacking the top of Apple’s product line; he’s complimenting the code and the efficiency with which it runs. He’s not saying that John’s new iMac is “near-consumer level;” he’s saying that FCP X will even run well at 1080p on something quite a bit less than what John is currently using. I mean that’s the way I read it.
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And even a 2011 Mac mini!
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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yes of course – i wasn’t even at all referring to John’s choice of hardware, its mad to think I was saying that.
– and seriously – who wouldn’t pick a stacked iMac – its murderous.
the interesting thing is it’s not insanely expensive, and the performance of FCPX on it can be pretty jaw dropping.
Its the same as the slates – apple’s combined software hardware optimisation is very serious, hard to replicate, kung fu.
They can juice the hardware they choose to a very serious degree – the iMac well specced, is a deadly serious edit box – and top specced it is near, but not quite consumer level.
27″ / i7 3.4 / 16GB RAM / 2GB NVIDIA / 1 TB Fusion / thunderbolt up the ass / applecare = two and a half grand sterling.
that is near-ish consumer pricing for some very serious kit.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Right could be right, while left remains left, you know?”
Ask any experienced camera operator or director…
When making video, if you “cross the line” right typically becomes left and left typically becomes right.
It’s something we expect.
Reality is just so darn messy sometimes.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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You say the strangest things.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “that is near-ish consumer pricing for some very serious kit.”
OK, now that I know what you’re saying, yes, it is miniaturization in the flesh. Smaller, faster, cheaper.
Let’s not forget there’s a dual link equivalent 27″ monitor strapped to it.
That’s the only thing that bugs me about an iMac. I literally can’t use one until that optical Thunderbolt cable comes out and I can extend everything where I need it.
But it will be the easiest extension i’ve probably ever done, so that’s worth waiting for and another serious advantage in the Thunderbolt column, 4x be damned.
Jeremy
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[Bret Williams] “I do wish that the horizontal magnetics (ripple) were not the default. Using the P tool isn’t really the same thing. And I think they could certainly ADD an audio section that has tracks at the bottom. so at least audio-only elements like music, sfx, and VO could be more easily managed.
“that is pretty much straight to my heart. does anyone else properly using X want to speak to this above? Does anyone nod along to the quote above?
Having messed half extensively with X – I’ve pretty much come to think that rigid video track layering might be more than a little bit redundant, (lets put that video on v15, no wait, V16 please) – but being able to call up the visibility of ordered audio slots as snapping horizontal line guides say, the same way you would say invoke snapping guides in PS maybe, for audio only elements is potentially desirable?
And also – as a spitball – how does a horizontally demagnetised option for X function? could that actually work?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “that is pretty much straight to my heart. does anyone else properly using X want to speak to this above? Does anyone nod along to the quote above?”
What I want, personally, (and I have said this before) is FCPX to be more like itself.
If we just go with what it is for a moment, and in that same moment we keep what is good about tracks and forget what is “bad”. Bad is the wrong word, so I put it in quotes.
What is good about tracks is that they organize visually, what is “bad” about them is that they are really clunky, especially when you have a lot of them.
One of the things I like about X is that it allows you to get granular (expand audio components) and then zip all that mess up in a tidy package, and you can view the mess or put away the mess, at will. You can select a huge of wad of clips, either in the Browser or the timeline, and virtually patch/unpatch the channels you need, or dual mono/stereo the channels you need, at any time. I love that. It is, in the best sense, non destructive and non repetitive. For example, you don’t have to rearrange your timeline just to add one channel of audio that you forgot to add when you initially edited that clip in to a timeline 25 days ago. You just go to the inspector and turn it back on.
So, since FCPX has a decent amount of database function exposed to the user, it would be great if we could SORT the audio data as we would like. I talked about “Zones” years ago.
What I think needs to happen, are using Roles need to take on visual sorting responsibility, at least as has been mentioned, with audio only elements. It would get trickier with embedded audio elements.
In a nutshell, I want the timeline (or the timeline index) to work as a database just as other parts of FCPX allow for certain search and sort capabilities. I think it would be quite powerful to give a user that control.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “And also – as a spitball – how does a horizontally demagnetised option for X function? could that actually work?”
I, personally, do not mind the magnetism. It’s so easy to shut it off when you need to, or keep it on when it is appropriate. The tilde key was a massive and necessary added function to aid in furthering the usefulness of magnetism.
In short, apply the FCPX ideas/methods to the entirety of the application, and I think it will make more sense to those who can’t “see” it, as the metaphor will be more complete.
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