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Risk and failure
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[Simon Ubsdell] “This is not a company with a vested interest in satisfying these groups. There is an imbalance of need here and I think many people in the industry are starting to perceive that and to appreciate to what extent it puts their businesses at risk to stay vested in a supplier who has the potential (whether or not it is currently an intention) to walk away from them.”
I’ve actually been meaning to write a blog post on this notion (that seems to have crystalized around Brinkmann’s “X vs. Pro.” blog post) that it’s an unalloyed good for a vendor to be afraid of its customers.
It’s not.
Yes, it results in new versions of software that can open the old versions’ files. That’s pretty convenient. But if you filed off the operating system chrome and showed this screen shot and this one to a couple of reasonably savvy computer users with no knowledge specific to the video editing market, and asked them to guess what year each application was released in… well, personally, ignoring the screen resolution clue, I’d guess about 1997 for the first, and within the last year or two for the second.
Being afraid of your customers also causes stagnation.
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[Chris Kenny] “you’re trying to portray me as some kind of zealot for saying it’s too early to call an app that was release ten days ago a “failure”.”
That’s your spin on my position, and it’s not accurate. Nor do I “portray” you – you portray yourself over and over again, constantly, without my assistance.
The problem is, the methods of argumentation you use are dishonest for the all the reasons I mentioned, just as you’ve been dishonest yet again here, by completely ignoring what I said, and spinning the argument in the direction that you desire.
Here, I’ll repeat what I said, and I’ll stick by it:
[David Roth Weiss] “As you already seem to have figured out, he refuses to acknowledge or respond to your salient points no matter how many times you spell them out. And, he is relentless in his use of circular reasoning and non sequiturs, which makes any discussion futile. ”
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[David Roth Weiss] “The problem is, the methods of argumentation you use are dishonest for the all the reasons I mentioned, just as you’ve been dishonest yet again here, by completely ignoring what I said, and spinning the argument in the direction that you desire. “
Says the guy who essentially never replies to the substance of my posts, instead preferring to make vague insinuations about how I argue.
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[Walter Soyka] ”
How long will it take you to feel comfortable with FCPX, if and when it becomes feature-complete? How do you feel about the fact that Avid and Adobe have older, longer-tested code bases?”It’ll take me longer to get “comfortable” with FCPX b/c it’s a different paradigm. I know I could get up and running on premiere in about a week and avid in about 2 weeks.
I’m currently learning FCPX and have been in downtime since it came out. That way once it DOES meet my complete needs I can hit the ground running.
-mattyc
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[james carey] “You are a bulldog, I give you that.”
that, apart from anything else, is true. If chris’s perceptions of risk, reward and the future actions of the professional market here are correct, then, like about five hundred posters, myself more than anyone, are going to owe him a beer, in fact I may owe him all the beer.
It’s just that I truly think, on a deep level, Apple are gone. The new XCode apparently largely demands unified single screen interfaces, said the canary in the coal mine – Apple, that weird creature, is getting ready to go off for a walk somewhere. They’ve thrown away nearly every pro app they’ve ever owned in preparation – they have, you know, emptied their pockets.
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to be fair to chris, like any old debater – I’m also pretty ruthlessly selective in the things I respond to. Mostly here I’m trying to hit Apple on the bonce for what I think is fairly disgraceful behaviour to a creative community that was instinctively, and by long historical practise, wedded to them, their hardware and their software – you know – they were the company for our sort, he said maudlin.
Now when I say hit them on the bonce of course, I actually mean bang my gnats splayed forearms onto the windshield of the apple Audi R8 doing ninety down the future lane highway – god alone knows they can’t actually see us.
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[Marvin Holdman] “Guess I’m just having a problem seeing the “hilarious” in all this.”
amen, the only thing laughable (if not admirable) is the dogged determination Chris displays with his tireless apologies for Apple’s screw up. I understand all his arguments, i just don’t agree with most of them.
But I do admire his determination.Jim Carey
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[Walter Soyka] “If enough people migrate away now, it may not matter to the pros if FCPX has tape I/O in a year, because another vendor will have picked up many new users who many not be willing to switch back.
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and that’s exactly what may happen. Both Adobe and Avid recognize this opportunity to increase their market share and are already reacting to it. If Apple loses enough of it share, and I hear it has recently climbed to just over 50%, then it won’t matter how good the upgrades eventually may be. By then 3rd party will have deemed support not worth the ROI. The biggest mistake Apple made was its business decision. That is if they really cared about staying in the professional post production marketplace in the first place. A very good case could be made to the opposite.Jim Carey
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maybe maybe maybe maybe – you could actually turn out to be right chris – the interesting thing about this is that it’s a crapshoot. In terms of quantum futures, this thing is just a shimmering mess – there is no way of knowing the outcome here – apple have gone that mad with the software pitch.
I’m still just basically deeply shocked at their cavalier treatment of a community that’s livelihood reliant on the software it uses, this is not iTunes.
I mean the sheer number of better ways they could have chosen to handle this beggars the mind and well, engenders real valid concern – not paranoia – concern. There is something of a moral onus on apple to step forward and speak clearly to the issues people are facing here, in education if nothing else – some of the posts from educators I found startling. For a company that touts its credentials in education, their behaviour here is nothing short of disgraceful.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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