Resurrecting old 4.0 PP project with 5.5 and having timeline issues with DSLR footage

[Jon Barrie]

Hi Jon,

Can you tell us if you are copying and pasting clips from the original edit sequence into a new DSLR sequence and still seeing the red bar.

Are the clips you edited using any effects or filters that may be triggering the red line. In other words the edit you brought from CS4 is not just cuts with original clips.

CS4 did not work with DSLR media, that began in CS5. The sequence you have brought in would most likely be using the same preset design as it was in CS4 which was not based on native support of DSLR.

Cheers JB

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[Jon Mitchell]

No, I am not copying and pasting from old to new (No effects or anything).

I opened my old project with 5.5 and had PP just recreate a new 5.5 project. (Just like AE does going from old to new).

I am aware that the 4.0 PP did not natively work with DSLR footage, which is why i said this is what i think is causing the problem.

If i create a sequence with untouched footage I need to render.
If i IMPORT that EXACT same footage, and create s sequence with that It seems fine. It’s only the footage that moved from the old project to the new. (If that makes sense). EVEN IF ITS A NEW SEQUENCE.

-Thanks again,
JWM

[Jon Mitchell]

Think of it this way.

The project has 1 piece of media and 1 sequence.
We will call them “Media_01” and “Seq_01”.

After PP converts the project from 4.0 to 5.5
I try to play “Seq_01” and it needs rendering (Red Line).

If i drag “Media_01” into the “New Item Button” It creates “Seq_02”
which also needs rendering.

HOWEVER, if i IMPORT the exact same media as “Media_01” and then drag that into the “New Item Button” and try to play “Seq_03” (The one just created) it plays fine (Yellow line) no rendering.

So the problem has to do with the info/properties/meta-data already associated with “Media_01”. I am trying to figure out how to update/refresh that info…

I hope this clarifies things,

Thanks,
JWM

[Jon Mitchell]

I figured it out…

I’m not sure why i didn’t think of it before.

But i just took all the media offline and relinked it… I wish there was some type of “Reload” like AE has…

-Thanks,
JWM

[Jon Barrie]

1st lets confine the perception that because it is redline that it NEEDS render. It may not. You could highly likely get realtime playback with a drop in the fractional playback quality so either 1/2 or 1/4 on HD material on a decent machine. FCP is different. Red line means you MUST render to get any form of playback.

2nd, not sure why you are experiencing the difference in the freshly imported clip Vs the one that came with the one that is connected to the original CS4 sequence.

The cache concept is about perhaps the clips are looking at the cache from the original CS4 project which wouldn’t have had realtime playback without lowering the quality to Draft or actually render and its still associating the clips with their original “not CS4 supported” cache?

I would try to give this a try.

Clean the Cache via the Preferences and restart PPro.

See if this fixes the original edit being copied and pasted into a new Native Preset Sequence.

If not, try to select all project media and set it to offline, but to keep the media (DO NOT DELETE IT).

Save and restart PPro. Then open it and hopefully you will be asked to reconnect the media.

I am hoping that the clips will be reconnected either manually with a direction to one of the clips, which will automatically find the rest of the clips based on the location of the first, and think it’s imported the clips new.

JB

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