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  • Renders Flip Images Shot with 35mm Adaptor

    Posted by Jimmy Stewart on January 22, 2008 at 12:13 am

    I shot a music video using the Panasonic HVX200 and various 35mm lenses through an adaptor. As you know, the adaptor flips the image as it records…therefore, when you bring the P2 material into FCP, it is flipped on its back – rotating the image 180. I thought, “no worries”….I can simply add the “flop” effect to each clip in its bin before it even hits the sequence. Well, its all good until I edit picture-in-picture (stack multiple tracks), and/or layer more than one effect onto the clip. What happens at this point is the new effect plays fine, but the original “flop” is rotated upside down – hence…back at square one. This only happens when it shows I have to render. and sometimes the unwanted “flop” is only on the dissolve – when the dissolve is last to show “needs render”.

    I’ve asked my tech at work and he has no idea why. I’ve tried everything – layering effects in different order, etc…and nothing. This is driving me mad. Avid does not have this problem…but…I like FCP more than Avid, as I can cut faster and easier…but maybe not for long….

    Please help!

    J Stew

    Jimmy Stewart replied 18 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    January 22, 2008 at 1:16 am

    That’s a strange problem that you’re having. My only suggestion would be to bake the flip into the shots by putting everything in one time line, applying the filter, exporting as a self contained file. Then just use that file to edit.

    It’s not a great solution, but then again, shooting so the file is flipped is less than ideal too.

    Good luck!

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Kaleidoscope Pictures
    Provo, UT

  • Paul Escandon

    January 22, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Based on what you’re saying, that obviously should not be happening. But I’ve seen weirder things.

    Have you tried trashing your prefs just to make sure that’s not the problem?

    Also, consider trying to rotate the image in the motion tab 180 degrees instead of the flop… see if that helps.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 22, 2008 at 2:11 am

    Take a look at Raylight. They are working on flopping the images before editing and import. When you import the images will come in ready to watch. Its called mxfx. it might be windows only.

  • Jimmy Stewart

    January 22, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    i tried rotating 180 while in the timeline…its fine – that is until i have to render a new effect. but i havent tried trashing the preferences. that might help. thanks for the ideas

  • Jimmy Stewart

    January 22, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    ill look into this. this is really a tough one being that i already put down a rough cut, and now im constantly going backwards. this really is a strange one.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 23, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    -i tried rotating 180 while in the timeline…its fine – that is until i have to render a new effect-
    Effects are always applied before the changes in the Motion tab. The only way to invert the order is nesting.
    Rotating the image using the Motion tab force a linear (Lower quality?)rendering. You may try the Andy Mess

  • Paul Escandon

    January 23, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Howabout using the Basic 3D filter then – that way the rotation is also happening as an effect. You can get the flip by setting the X axis rotation to -180.

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    2 20″ Dell UltraSharps + Matrox MXO & 23″ ACD

  • Rafael Amador

    January 24, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Half of my post didn´t go out, sorry.
    I was suggestint you to use the Andy Mees´s free plugin “Better 3D”.

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  • Jimmy Stewart

    January 25, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    ah. that makes more sense! thanks! ill try that. thanks to everyone for the suggestions. ill keep you posted. so far, no luck…

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