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Rendering issues
Hey all, recently Ive noticed a new issue which never happened to me before and now im quite concerned. I havefootage from both Red and DSLR, the red is 24fps natively and the DSLR is 23.976fps natively. Now when i render out both footages and I set the render to 24fps I notice that the file doesnt display the correct time. So I decided to drag my rendered footage into premiere and check it out. It turns out that my render is displaying as 24 fps but its adding an extra frame, and when i scrub through the footage in the viewer i notice that the frame count goes up to 29.
Another thing i need to mention is that when i render the DSLR as 23.976 its completely fine. But when i render the already 24 fps red as 24 fps i still have this issue.
And when i tried doing the same on an older version of premiere pro (version 7.0.0) i didnt get this issue. Only now in CC 2014 am i getting this issue.
If anyone can help id really appreciate it. Thanks
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27 Replies
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If you’re editing both types of media to the same sequence, the sequence should be set to 24 or 23.976 fps and whichever footage is not a match would be best handled by using the ‘interpret footage’ feature on the media in the project panel/bin to change the frame rate of the clip to match the sequence. (This ensures that all the frames are there, but simply played back at the new frame rate).
You’ll probably have to give a more detailed step by step account of what you’re doing to come up with any troubleshooting help on the 29th frame thing if it’s something other than unintentionally having the sequence set for 29.97 fps
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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Hey Tim, thanks for the response.
Here is my workflow: i set up my premiere sequence as 23.976 for my DSLR footage, I do my edits etc. I then export the media, my setup is custom. The resolution is 1920×1080, i set the fps to 24fps and leave it as NTSC, the pixel aspect ratio stays at Square Pixels 1. I set my profile to high 4.1 and then i set the min and max bitrates and I render.
Now on all my other versions of Pr I never had this issue, after the render i check the file and the frame count goes up to 29 frames. I dont understand why. But when i render the DSLR footage as 23.976 i dont get any issues.
I have a feeling something is wrong with my copy of Premiere, cause when I take a footage that is natively 24fps and render it as 24 fps it still goes up to 29 frames. Im very concerened about this so any help will be appreciated.
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First off, let’s get our terminology straight…’render’ means preview rendering on the edit sequence to most of us. It would appear from your description that you are talking about ‘exporting’ to a different format.
If you choose an ‘NTSC’ export profile, the default frame rate will usually be 29.97 fps. You need to choose an export preset that supports the proper framerate, or manually set it.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Video Producer at I-CAR -
The exporter in premiere automatically sets the footage to NTSC. And I always make sure to set the correct framerate.
Whats confusing me the most it that other versions of premiere dont do this.
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I’m afraid I don’t understand what you mean here…
What format are you trying to export to? H264? MPEG2? What does the exporter setting say at the top?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Video Producer at I-CAR -
Here is my typical export settings.
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Hmmm…and you’re getting a clip that is not 24 fps from this?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Video Producer at I-CAR -
This is what I get:
And this is what I get in After Effects
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That looks right…
So…what is it you’re seeing that indicates the output file has a 29th frame in a second?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Video Producer at I-CAR -
Yes. Now when I take the same video into premiere cs5.5 and I export it the same way, and open the file in cs5.5 I dont have this issue. But as soon as I bring that export from cs5.5 to cc 2014 again it will show me incorrectly. One more thing I’d like to mention is that on premiere 7.0.0 I did not experience this issue.
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