rendering in AE HDV to be imported in fcp

[Tim Vaughan]

Lossless/Lossless with Alpha is always a safe bet. Much larger files, but true quality. If you got the space, that’s what I’d do. However, under your Quicktime options, you do have the ability to render out exactly to the spec you are working, say HDV 1080p24.

Tim

[Kevin Camp]

[Tim Vaughan] “under your Quicktime options, you do have the ability to render out exactly to the spec you are working, say HDV 1080p24”

you might double check that… i don’t have hdv as a render option in quicktime. if you are on a mac, the client should be able to provide it, since they are using it in fcp… for windows you can probably download it in one of the codec packs that have been mentioned at the cow, search hdv codec download, etc.

the slight negative of this workflow (providing two different sizes) is that you will have to render twice… you can’t just add an output module to the render and have it kick out two files for one render. the fastest workflow i can think of would be to render the lossess version, with a post render setting of import, then drop the lossless render into an hdv1080 preset with 23.976 fps and then render that.

Kevin Camp
Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

[Heather Crank]

I double checked and I don’t have hdv as a render in quicktime…so you think that the client can provide me the codec I need to render this (just want to make double sure before I ask)?

Thank you everyone, I REALLY appreciate all the help!

Heather

[Kevin Camp]

i think the only way you could get the apple hdv codec is to purchase fcp, and i don’t think purchasing quicktime pro would give it to you.

i honestly don’t know why apple keeps a strangle hold on their pro codecs, it’s really anoying. i have the hdv codec on a g5, it came with motion back when you could purchase motion separately. but, it’s not a universal binary, so it won’t work on my macpro (unless i run ae or quicktime under rosetta).

ok, gripe over…

i think the client would provide the codec if they really wanted a version in hdv, and you explained that you can’t purchase it without buying fcp. the location of the file is drivename/library/quicktime. it’s called applehdvcodec.component.

if anyone knows how to get universal binary versions of apple’s hd quicktime components, i would love to know how (other than buying fcp)…

Kevin Camp
Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

[Heather Crank]

Thanks Kevin. I really appreciate you taking the time..I’ll check with my client. I have quicktime pro and I don’t see a hdv codec there….

Thank you again!

Heather

[Steve Roberts]

If they edit on FCP, maybe you could ask them to convert the movie to HDV …?

(Say that it would streamline the workflow or some other stuff. Don’t go hat in hand, feeling that you’re somehow deficient. As a motion graphic artist, you don’t *need* to have FCP and HDV, just as Notch, a $900 per hour color-correct house only accepts Digibeta SD and HDCAM material for color-correction.)

[Brendan Coots]

“the slight negative of this workflow (providing two different sizes) is that you will have to render twice… you can’t just add an output module to the render and have it kick out two files for one render.”

Maybe I misunderstood you here, but you actually CAN have two output modules (or more) on the same queued render item and it does render them at the same time.

As for the HDV codec, I had to upload it for a contractor recently and you can download it here:

AppleHDVCodec.component

[Heather Crank]

Thank you everyone. The cow is great! HDV has so many details, it’s great to get varied feedback covering so many angles!

Heather

[Heather Crank]

This may be a redundant question, but from some responses I’m getting the codec is connected to the quicktime I have installed. So where do I put the hdv codec once I’ve downloaded it?

Thank you!

Heather

[Kevin Camp]

place the codec in library/quicktime (preferably not system/library/quicktime)…

beenie “Maybe I misunderstood you here, but you actually CAN have two output modules (or more) on the same queued render item and it does render them at the same time”

yep, you can have two output modules (or more) on one render… but, i believe, the problem is the frame size change that would need to occur between the square pixel 1920×1080 full hd render that they asked for and the the 1440×1080 hdv (1.33 par). i think you would need to set the frame size change in the render settings, and you can only have one render setting per render…

Kevin Camp
Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW