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  • Removing black background on stock footage

    Posted by Linda Long on May 10, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    I have downloaded several clips from digital juice that have alpha channels that I should be able to put over another video clip and see through. For example I downloaded a lower third clip. It is 2 files in mov format. The background around the lower third is black and I have not been able to figure out how to make it transparent.

    This is something I’ve never tried to do before and the instructions I found online set to set the properties to “straight (unmatted)” for the alpha channel. This didn’t work. I tried other settings with no success. I tried several youtube videos but nothing seems to work. Also, all the videos I watched had one file for the lower third or overlay clip. I have 2 not counting the background clip that I want to be able to see behind the lower third.

    Can someone tell me how or point me to instructions? TY!

    John Rofrano replied 10 years ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Wayne Waag

    May 10, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    If I’m not mistaken, Vegas pro only reads the alpha channel from an uncompressed avi. Here is a link of someone asking a similar question a couple of years ago.

    https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?messageid=887405

    Here is a link on converting a mov with alpha to uncompressed avi. One option that seems to work is to convert the mov to a png sequence with ffmpeg.

    https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/365319-convert-mov-with-alpha-channel-to-AVI-with-RGBA

    In any case, good luck and report back if you find something that works for you.

    wwaag

  • John Rofrano

    May 10, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    What codec do the files use? Open them in QuickTime Player and use Ctrl+I to bring up the inspector windows and see what codec the video uses. It needs to be able to carry an alpha channel in order for Vegas Pro to see it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • John Rofrano

    May 10, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    [Wayne Waag] “Vegas pro only reads the alpha channel from an uncompressed avi.”

    Actually, Vegas Pro handles alpha channels in QuickTime MOV files just fine. The link you pointed to in your post had to do with MOV files created in Avid. No one supports Avid’s alpha channels because they are backward. Vegas Pro supports QuickTime alpha channels with the Animation codec, the PNG codec, and ProRes 4444 codec in addition to uncompressed.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Linda Long

    May 11, 2016 at 2:38 am
  • John Rofrano

    May 11, 2016 at 11:07 am

    [Linda Long] “Here is a link to two files I was trying to use:”

    Hi Linda,

    Those files are Photo JPEG and do not contain an Alpha Channel. What you have is Matte video that can be used to mask the Wipe video. You need to:

    • Place the 99175_goldenFiligree_HD1_Alpha.mov video on the top track.
    • Place the 99175_goldenFiligree_HD1_DA_Wipe.mov video on the track below it.
    • Place your background video on a track below both of those.
    • Change the Compositing Mode of the top track to with the matte video to Mask (Multiply)
    • Change the second track with the Wipe to be a Compositing Child of the top track.
    • Add the Mask Generator to the Alpha matte Event to make the black turn transparent.

    Here is a picture of what you should see:

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Linda Long

    May 11, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    Thank you so much for taking time to post such a nice set of instructions. I will work on this a bit later this a.m. and get back to you!

  • Linda Long

    May 11, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    That worked! Thank you so much!

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  • Wayne Waag

    May 11, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    [John Rofrano]

    As always, I learn something new which invariably, for me at least, suggests the need for a database of tips, tricks, and techniques. Oftentimes, these gems are buried within a thread and unlikely to be found through normal searches. How to organize and maintain such a database is another matter. Just an idea.

    One other thing–what screen shot software do you use? It’s really nice

    wwaag

  • Linda Long

    May 11, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    Ok, one more question along these lines. I have some other .mov files that I got from digitaljuice.com that are supposed to be used for transitions. They only have one file and I am a loss as how to use these. I have the same black background instead of transparency issue.

    Since I only have one file, I’m not sure how to use these.

    Here is a sample file:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/eru9z6v1qk2syaq/colored-stripes-closing-door-transition-yellow_Zy4_ZRdeB.mov?dl=0

    Check out my blog full of reading lists of some of the best books for children, homeschool or unit studies.
    https://readingvoyages.blogspot.com/

  • Andrew Lenczycki

    May 11, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    I have quite a bit of the Digital Juice products. You would position the “colored stripes closing” event on a track above the two events you will be transitioning from (A to B). At the point where the A & B events meet, you will position the “colored stripes” event so the stripes are where they completely obscure the two events below, AND you must right click on that event and set the Properties|Media|Alpha Channel to Straight (Unmatted).) This will make the black portions of the “colored stripes” video transparent (so you can see your other 2 video events “behind” the “colored stripes”).

    Andrew Lenczycki

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