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  • Relinking, Onlining issue

    Posted by Derek Nickell on January 2, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    I inherited a project from another editor and I don’t have any way to contact and talk to that editor. I believe the project has been started in MC7 but I have migrated back to a 6.0 MC load to cut on.

    The project is now locked and I am trying to get the file online to grade and finish. I have tried several methods on the net that I have found, but none of them seem to be linking back to the original camera files. I could go through each cut and rebuild, but I’m thinking there has to be a better way.

    I have tried sending out an AAF linked and also AAF’s where I copy the MXF dir to a new drive/folder, etc. When I get into resolve, and mark ‘link to originals’ it only pulls op the MXF low res files from Avid.

    Anyone have a workflow from 6.0 to get back to the original R3D files or a way to check to see how the files were ingested in the first place?

    Derek Nickell replied 12 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 12:01 am

    You need to see how the source metadata was tracked on the orignal offline clips. In your bin, create a bin view that includes the following columns:

    1. Tape
    2. Source File
    3. Start
    4. End

    Depending on the process, there will be a filename in the either the Tape or Source File column. If Tape, then it was done as part of a dailies process with third party software. If in Source Files, then they probably linked via AMA and transcoded. Once you know what that is, we can advise how to do a relink. It is not the most obvious process, but you can usually get it to work after multiple attempts… 🙂

    Michael

  • Derek Nickell

    January 3, 2014 at 1:23 am

    Thanks for the quick response Michael.

    Tape: [project name]_day04.15
    No source file:
    S: 12:25:XX:XX
    E: 12:26:XX:XX

    Looks like it was from Resolve. Under Manufacturer it reads DaVinci Resolve. Does this mean I need to transcode out of Resolve and relink?

  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 1:47 am

    Yikes! I blogged about this several months back:
    https://24p.com/wordpress/?p=24

    I don’t know why anyone would enter that as REEL ID with any hopes of a smooth post process. You might have an easier time if you can identify the original R3D files with the same info. I would then AMA link to the R3D files that would meet that metadata and add it to the Camroll or Labroll column. From there, in v6.5 and later you can relink on any column as source. If not, then it will be a clip by clip identification.

    This is not the first time I have seen these types of issues come up – usually from inexperienced folks who have access to Resolve for free and jump into the “dailies” process without checking their work with a quick test as soon as dailies are created.

    Michael

  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 1:56 am

    Any chance that the folder that contains the R3D files has that name? Then you should be able to quickly add that to all related R3D in one of the columns. Or do a relink/conform in Resolve using the same syntax for source or folder – perhaps the ALE export from Resolve will also have the R3D file name in the clip name column. Would you happen to have that already from the dailies process by chance? If you look at all the columns, is there anything that looks like an R3D file name?

    Michael

  • Derek Nickell

    January 3, 2014 at 2:15 am

    I’m sorry I forgot to mention that I have all of the original R3D files in the original directory format. Would this change anything?


    Derek Nickell | OMPA, VFT | Editor, VFX, Colorist
    Blue Brownie Post Production, Portland, OR O:503.922.2117

  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 2:26 am

    Do you see a folder structure with one of them having this naming structure?:
    [project name]_day04.15

    and I would assume:
    [project name]_day04.16
    [project name]_day04.17
    etc.

    If so, you have a fighting chance.

    Michael

  • Derek Nickell

    January 3, 2014 at 2:39 am

    Nothing like that.

    footage/day1/A001, A002, B001, etc.

    It’s only four days, probably 11 reels total. Could I dupe and recreate the folder structure?


    Derek Nickell | OMPA, VFT | Editor, VFX, Colorist
    Blue Brownie Post Production, Portland, OR O:503.922.2117

  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 3:26 am

    Well it’s not so much recreating the folder structure but using it to know which clips are part of that name that was assigned. I suspect you have several clips that have the same “Tape” value? it’s applying that name to the linked R3D files so that you have a common source file (REEL) to link to in addition to the timecode for the span itself.

    Michael

  • Derek Nickell

    January 3, 2014 at 4:43 am

    I’ll dupe a series and see if changing the structure works.

    Thanks for the help Michael.


    Derek Nickell | OMPA, VFT | Editor, VFX, Colorist
    Blue Brownie Post Production, Portland, OR O:503.922.2117

  • Michael Phillips

    January 3, 2014 at 4:49 am

    Does your bin with the offline proxy clips contain the original R3D filename anywhere at all? If so, you can cross reference that way.

    Michael

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