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RedShark News: Opinion: Which are the best NLEs right now?
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Jeremy Garchow
December 31, 2014 at 8:48 pm[Daniel Frome] “Is there a way to definitively select secondaries/audio elements via keyboard ?”
No. This is almost my number 1 feature request, being able to select the “shelf” as well as clips with only the keyboard. It would be nice to be able to use the bouncing ball to handle some of this.
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Herb Sevush
December 31, 2014 at 8:54 pm[James Ewart] “Default audio cross fades are a bit of a “bodge” IMHO. Audio needs to be a bit more subtle than that ideally.”
I routinely apply a 3 frame audio cross to all of my audio cuts and then do fine adjustments, including removing those that don’t work at all, as I go through the final mix. It might be a “bodge” but it let’s me sleep better at nite. Any NLE that doesn’t let me do this better have a good substitute.
Herb Sevush
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Jeremy Garchow
December 31, 2014 at 8:55 pm[Peter J. DeCrescenzo] “Yes, I understand I can drag & drop files from a Finder window into FCPX. My point is why the heck doesn’t FCPX — years later — not recognize Finder tags in its import dialog box or in the app?”
It does. You can setup keyword collections based on finder tags right in the import window.
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Herb Sevush
December 31, 2014 at 8:56 pm[Oliver Peters] ” I set a default audio dissolve length and apply that to all edits in one step. Then I go through the timeline and listen. Any that don’t work are tweaked.”
Instead of posting my reply I just should have “liked” yours. This is exactly how I work.
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December 31, 2014 at 11:33 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “[Peter J. DeCrescenzo] “Yes, I understand I can drag & drop files from a Finder window into FCPX. My point is why the heck doesn’t FCPX — years later — not recognize Finder tags in its import dialog box or in the app?”
It does. You can setup keyword collections based on finder tags right in the import window.”
I don’t see anything in the FCPX import window or menus that says or does anything concerning Finder tags.
Does it involve a secret handshake, special eyeglasses, or what?
(I see Finder tags displayed in the app after import, but not before.)
Again, apologies for my brain damage if I’m mistaken! 🙂
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James Ewart
January 1, 2015 at 7:25 amOliver Peters This is light years faster than adjusting fade handles manually for every clip in/out, not to mention also having to extend the handle to create an overlap.
I have amended this reply to ensure it is not misconstrued in tone.
Apologies as “bodge” is probably a flippant choice of word.
I agree if speed is your main thing. I do wonder how much faster though than fine tuning every one in the first instance. But you have to go back over them all anyway and a fair few must need tweaking. I have to go back over them all too but maybe have to adjust fewer of the transitions.
I use Alex 4D audio only for rough assemblies. But I find there is a temptation to be lazy and use it as my own default. I also agree it is puzzling that audio fade was not built not the software from the get go. What could the reason be?
But it’s been good for me not having it there. I have enjoyed the discipline (albeit more laborious) of taking a little more time with, and control of my audio and that this functionality in X is much better than Legacy/Legend (what do we call it now?). This added audio control is one of the things I most like about FCPX. It allows me to do stuff I would have to send to an audio person in the past as Pro Tools and Logic are not in my toolbox. So much more accurate and precise. I love it.
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Daniel Frome
January 1, 2015 at 2:04 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “This is almost my number 1 feature request”
Yeah… it’s practically a must, just barely a head of audio-only dissolves.
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Tony West
January 1, 2015 at 3:26 pm[James Ewart] “I do wonder how much faster though than fine tuning every one in the first instance. But you have to go back over them all anyway and a fair few must need tweaking. I have to go back over them all too but maybe have to adjust fewer of the transitions.”
+1 on this James
I have to listen to each cut anyway. That transition should be added with the quickness, but I’m not sure how much I would really use it.
When I’m cutting dialog and the person starts into another story and I want to cut it off. Sometimes its tight because they almost blend their words together and sometimes there is a large gap there. Seems like for me more times than not it’s tight and I like that manual tweeting.
The bigger issue for me in X is that popping sound on the cut. Most times I can get it with the handles but it’s annoying.
[James Ewart] ” It allows me to do stuff I would have to send to an audio person in the past “
Do you use RX 4 James? Having the power of that program right there in X is great. That is the best sound tool I have ever used.
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James Ewart
January 1, 2015 at 4:22 pmThe bigger issue for me in X is that popping sound on the cut. Most times I can get it with the handles but it’s annoying.
Thanks. Of course the audio only business depends on what you are doing. if speed is the issue of course it will help but that’s not my personal priority most of the time.
I don’t seem to get the audio popping except in Multicam when I have applied audio filters. What are the problems you encounter?
The popping business I am aware of in Multicam where X quite unnecessarily adds an audio edit where only a video edit is required. I am surprised this had not yet been addressed as the workaround of having to drag your main audio out across the timeline to get rid if the edits is tedious.
Thanks I’ll look into RX4. What does it do?
Much as I am a convert every now and then I am reminded that FCPX is not really “there” yet and for a “professional” tool there are still some rather “unprofessional” idiosyncrasies that should really have been sorted by now especially if one wants to win an argument with Aindreas Gallagher.
Oliver Peters’ suggestion that it is a great creative offline tool but not really a finishing tool somewhere in this thread is a salient observation perhaps.
If I were to want to master to tape a stereo master with separate M&E on Audio 3 and 4 is that even possible with X? (Forgive me if this has been debated a million times but I have not seen it)
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