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  • RED Audio – Plays in REDCINEX, not in Premiere

    Posted by Kyle Berkompas on July 11, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Hey ya’ll. I’m running into an audio issue with RED Epic 5K footage in my Premiere timeline. The audio plays back from the clips in REDCINEX but as soon as we import them into our project, each clip only has the first 1 seconds of audio. There is a waveform for this first second of audio but then nothing after that. We did a work around of doing CC and an export from CineX but I’d like to figure out what is going on.

    This problem seems to affect the entire magazine but only certain magazines.

    Any ideas?

    Ericbowen replied 13 years ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Ericbowen

    July 11, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Did you copy over the entire folder structure for that Red media?

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Kyle Berkompas

    July 11, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Yes, we’ve tried copying the folder structure and individual clips.

  • Angelo Lorenzo

    July 11, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    That shouldn’t matter, Adobe implements the RED SDK pretty well and R3D files contain both audio and video in comparison to some other foldered content that separates it.

    I think the general thing to do is clear cache and reset preferences as a starting point.

    Alternately, you could try to go to sequence > render audio and see if that assists anything.

    When this happens, regardless of footage type, there was usually some error in audio conforming.

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  • Ericbowen

    July 11, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    That is true provided the meta data is read correctly by the media browser/file importer. If that isn’t then the audio files wont conform correctly which is what you are suggesting. That is why I asked if all of the media directories were moved over.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Angelo Lorenzo

    July 11, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    For RED footage, camera metadata is stored burned into the R3D (footage) file. Once the metadata is altered by a program, say an exposure adjustment is made, then a sidecar RMD file is created.

    Premiere Pro doesn’t respect the portion of metadata that links external audio (Redcine X has a nice mechanism for syncing second system audio for dailies). Leads me to believe the issue is strictly Premiere rather than a bad transfer.

    Just some good knowledge to know regardless.

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    Angelo Lorenzo

    Need to encode ProRes on your Windows PC?
    Introducing ProRes Helper, an awesome little app that makes it possible
    Fallen Empire Digital Production Services – Los Angeles
    RED transcoding, on-set DIT, and RED Epic rental services
    Fallen Empire – The Blog
    A blog dedicated to filmmaking, the RED workflow, and DIT tips and tricks
    Can your post production question fit in a tweet? Follow me on Twitter

  • Ericbowen

    July 11, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    Thank you for the heads up.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Ericbowen

    July 11, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    Where are your media cache directories located? What happens if you import the files into AE or Prelude?

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Ericbowen

    July 11, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    I have seen this issue when AC3 filter could not decode correctly as well but not with uncompressed Wave files.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Kyle Berkompas

    July 12, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    I’ve cleared the cache files and reimported the footage with no avail. The files still all contain the first second of audio but then go blank after.

  • Ericbowen

    July 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Have you tried AE or Prelude yet? Is this OSX or Windows?

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

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