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  • reclaiming 24P from tape captured at 60P?

    Posted by Mgroff14 on October 22, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Hi,

    I asked this over on the Final Cut forum and they proposed I may find a better solution here.

    So here goes: We have a couple DVCPRO HD tapes out of the HDX900 here that were inadvertently captured by our assistant editor as 60P without duplicate frame removal. Now that we’re dropping it on a DVCPRO HD 720p24 timeline in FCP we’re getting unsightly stutter and I wanted to see what our best options were for stripping the extra frames to get back to a 720p24 file.

    The Panasonic Framerate tool is absolutely useless if you ask me. I can never get it to work and it never gives any sort of feedback as to why it’s not doing anything. Is there anything to be done in FCP or After Effects to get the right framerate?

    I’ve tried both Cinema Tools approaches (inside and outside Final Cut) as well as Remove Advanced Pulldown (which I believe only applies to interlaced formats), and none of those approaches gave me what I’m looking for. The Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine option does not become available when I load the source clip within Cinema Tools, but I am certain it is 24P within 60P (as confirmed by stepping through the source file). Am I doing something incorrectly within Cinema Tools?

    Has anyone had this problem and used JES Deinterlacer? I’m not familiar with the program, but it ‘sounds’ like it may do the trick.

    Thanks,

    mg

    John Sharaf replied 18 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • John Sharaf

    October 22, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Maybe I’m missing something, but why don’t you just recapture correctly? I’m guessing that you’d have to rental a deck to do so and the $350-400 is a deal breaker, but you’ll easily spend this amount or more in labor for a work around and the results will not match the rest of your footage.

    JS

  • Mgroff14

    October 22, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    Haha, you are correct, sir. The idea is that the tapes will be recaptured correctly during online, so for now I’m looking for a workaround that will remove the stutter temporarily. Worst case scenario is we’ll wait until after our next shoot and throw the miscaptured tapes into the queue, but that may be a month or so away and in the meantime we’ll be showing some of what we’ve cut around.

  • Gary Adcock

    October 22, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    [mgroff14] “The Panasonic Framerate tool is absolutely useless if you ask me. I can never get it to work and it never gives any sort of feedback as to why it’s not doing anything”

    The Software FRC works very well as long as you do a few things

    files need to be in the root level of the browser
    you cannot convert subclips
    they have to be captured properly with in and out points
    they have to be DVCPROHD at 59.94

    Yes you can use CT to remove the redundant frames- convert the timebase to 29.97 first

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Ernie Santella

    January 20, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Slightly OT, but where can you find a rental 1200 or 1400 deck at $350??? My local rental house is $690/day – Ouch!

  • John Sharaf

    January 20, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Ernie,

    I don’t know where you live, but I rent my 1200A and 1400 decks at $350 net to qualified clients with proper insurance. I’ve even subrented decks in my area (LA) for less on occassions!

    JS

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