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  • Re: Vegas-5 ‘Pan and Zoom problems’

    Posted by Tinfish on July 1, 2005 at 10:45 pm

    I have to agree with Mark when he says (on another thread) that panning and zooming is the one feature of Vegas he specifically dislikes.

    After a year using Vegas-5 I still havent gotten used to the pan and zoom interface. In fact I think I’m getting worse – as my latest video, which I spent ages on, on closer inspections many of the shots have the dreaded dark border around them where I’d zoomed in but the frame shrunk as a result (I did right click the frame and select the Aspect Ratio option, but these borders still crop up (pardon the pun!)

    In addition, the pan and zoom interface is so fiddly, that one slight slip of the mouse can send your image rotating left, right or wherever.

    As I’ve said before, I do like Vegas a lot; and what I’d love to see in Vegas-5/6 is an interface similar to that used in Proshow-Gold (see photo/link), which is so simple and utterly easy to use, that you cant fail to pan and zoom properly – with pinpoint precision – in a matter of seconds, because you can see the starting and ending points of the shot in question on two screens. >>>
    https://x-plane.org/home/xplain/xplain/proshow.jpg

    If anyone knows of a plugin interface like this one (above), that I could use in Vegas-5, perhaps they could let me know. (Ive tried the most popular one – whose name escapes me – but I couldnt get it to behave)

    Thanks

    Tin

    Tinfish replied 20 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Edward Troxel

    July 1, 2005 at 11:34 pm

    Wow, I actually LIKE the way it works. Just remember that the two resizing methods work backwards to each other. With Track Motion, when you make the “F” window smaller, the image will also get smaller. With Pan/Crop, making the “F” window smaller makes the image LARGER (i.e. you zoom in on a smaller section of the video).

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Donatello

    July 3, 2005 at 4:03 am

    if you are using pan/crop on video teh dark border could be because the camera is not using all the 720×480 pixels ( canons tend not to) … if you are panning stills that are not 720×480 and you want them to fill the whole frame you have to make sure you have thge lock aspect ratio ON and use the MATCH aspect ratio the on the 1st key frame

  • Peter Wright

    July 3, 2005 at 5:14 am

    This may be one of those situations where a zoom gets near to the edge, and the default smoothness setting of 100% creates an unwanted curve which can take the zoomed frame outside the “main” frame.

    The solution is to change the Smoothness setting of each keyframe to 0% so that the zoom moves directly from one keyframe to the next. If the first keyframe is set to 0% before starting, all subsequent keyframes will remain at zero.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Strobealific

    July 3, 2005 at 8:31 pm

    Ultimate S and Excalibur both do the work for you with photos. I own both for different reasons.

    Maybe someone can suggest a good tutorial for you on panning and zooming.


    Marc Bowyer
    StrobeAlific Media

  • Tinfish

    July 3, 2005 at 9:33 pm

    >Ultimate S and Excalibur both do the work for you with photos
    ——–
    It was Ultimate S that I tried before. It worked fine initially, but then if I added any more slides or video clips to the timeline, it would tend to mess up what I’d done before.

    I’ll loook into Excalibur tho.

    Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and feedback.

  • Edward Troxel

    July 4, 2005 at 5:13 am

    I can say that Excalibur will only affect selected images. I’m not sure how Ultimate S works in regard to this without doing research. Here’s an example using the zooms and pans in Excalibur 4.2a – simply dragged a series of images to the timeline, run Excalibur, and rendered. None of the images were manually adjusted:
    https://www.jetdv.com/vegas/PMExcalibur4-2.wmv

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Tinfish

    July 4, 2005 at 10:35 am

    Thanks for the sample video. Very nice zooms and pans.
    I’ll look into Excalibur.

    Does vegas-6 have any advantages over vegas-5 as regards ease of zooming and panning?

  • Edward Troxel

    July 4, 2005 at 1:06 pm

    [Tinfish] “Does vegas-6 have any advantages over vegas-5 as regards ease of zooming and panning?”

    I know of no differences in Pan/Crop between the two versions.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Tinfish

    July 5, 2005 at 2:26 pm

    > “I know of no differences in Pan/Crop between the two versions”.
    ———-

    Thanks. Thats saved me some money for now 🙂

    Final question. Say I import 50 jpeg images into Vegas-5 to make a slideshow. Whats the simplest way to crossafade all those images at once? Do I “select all” then hit the numpad “/” key? ..and would that give me good quality (slow transition) crossfades, or would they be ‘blink and you’ll miss them’ type fades?

    Cheers

  • Edward Troxel

    July 5, 2005 at 3:15 pm

    [Tinfish] “Whats the simplest way to crossafade all those images at once?”

    Two ways:
    1) Options – Preferences – Editing tab – tell it to automatically crossfade when adding the images to the timeline and the length you wish for the crossfade.
    2) Scripts such as the Gap tool in Excalibur or the new free script added in the free scripts section at https://www.jetdv.com. With scripts like Excalibur or Ultimate S, you can also automate panning and zooming of the images. Here’s an example of Excalibur 4.2 automatically panning, zooming, and crossfading.
    https://www.jetdv.com/vegas/PMExcalibur4-2.wmv

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

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