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[Bill Davis] “The seats got filled by those who DID want to be there more than you did. Simple as that.”
No argument.
Just the same, every other NLE maker actually wanted my attention, they sent me e-mails for months before NAB and provided all sorts of information and opportunities to learn what’s new with their products. But Apple is not like other companies so if I wanted to learn what they are up to I would have to research it on the web, then wait in line to beat out other interested parties, and then sign a NDA.
I am not worthy.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Just the same, every other NLE maker actually wanted my attention, they sent me e-mails for months before NAB and provided all sorts of information and opportunities to learn what’s new with their products. But Apple is not like other companies so if I wanted to learn what they are up to I would have to research it on the web, then wait in line to beat out other interested parties, and then sign a NDA.
I am not worthy.”
Bazinga!
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Isn’t this discussion getting a bit silly? For any company of size, mounting a booth at NAB costs millions of dollars and consumes a lot of the staff for 4-6 months. Apple has chosen not to play that game. Now that’s a shame for those of us who go, but you can certainly understand why they don’t do it. Doing is big keynote at some off-site hotel isn’t cheap or less time consuming either.
In past years Apple held closed door briefings in a hotel room with press, some customers, and partners. This year they took a slightly different and a bit more open approach. Isn’t that a good thing? Avid, Adobe, Autodesk and others all have private briefings – usually online – in the weeks leading up to NAB or other releases. These are all under embargo until the time is right. This really isn’t that much different.
In the grand scheme of things none of it matters. When an update to FCPX comes, you’ll know about it and can decide what to do. At least now you know some activity has been going on.
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[Bill Davis] “the whole thing is currently a massive tempest in a teapot “
That’s the Internet in a nutshell. 😉
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[Oliver Peters] “Isn’t this discussion getting a bit silly?”
It’s been quite silly since it started.
[Oliver Peters] ” For any company of size, mounting a booth at NAB costs millions of dollars and consumes a lot of the staff for 4-6 months. Apple has chosen not to play that game. Now that’s a shame for those of us who go, but you can certainly understand why they don’t do it.”
Apple can spend their money any way they see fit, and from their stock price it appears they’ve been spending it in the right way and I don’t expect them to start asking my opinion on what to do any time in the near future.
[Oliver Peters] “In past years Apple held closed door briefings in a hotel room with press, some customers, and partners. This year they took a slightly different and a bit more open approach. Isn’t that a good thing?”
I have no idea if it was a good thing or not, I wasn’t there. While Apple has every right to do things as they wish I don’t think I’m alone in feeling excluded – they have the right not to care how I feel, I have the right to be annoyed. In my case I have to make some spending decisions by June 1st and it would be helpful to have some idea of what Apple is up to before then. As it stands I have no way of knowing what I will know or when. This is not new, Apple is famous for it’s secrecy, it part of the brand etc., but the obvious comparison between every other NLE maker and Apple becomes even more pointed at NAB.
[Oliver Peters] “In the grand scheme of things none of it matters. When an update to FCPX comes, you’ll know about it and can decide what to do.”
In the grand scheme of things I’m ending this post right here.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bill Davis] “I’m not smart enough to understand whether the vulnerability was in the work Apple did, or a flaw in the underlying Windows OS that allowed the breech, but QT is pretty pervasive and the breech is ONLY relative to that platform. So I think it’s far to question whether the code flaw is totally Apple’s fault. After all, it stood for decades without much vulnerability. And suddenly after all those years, it’s the problem? “
The flaw is totally Apple’s fault.
1) They fixed an extremely similar flaw that existed in both Windows and OS X in July of last year:
https://blog.fortinet.com/post/fortiguard-labs-discloses-apple-quicktime-heap-overflow-vulnerability2) If Apple is not responsible for this flaw because the OS allows it, then Apple would be responsible for every single Adobe Acrobat or Flash vulnerability on the Mac platform, by the same logic. And there are a great many of those…
It’s entirely possible that this vulnerability has been there for years, undetected. Remember that at this point, this is purely security research and there is no known exploit of this vulnerability.
[Bill Davis] “Given that the freeking FBI just asked Apple to build in a backdoor to the MacOS – and Apple refused – it’s pretty obvious that they consider security issues to be completely “mission critical.” … So wouldn’t YOU have deprecated Quicktime for Windows just the same if it was your call? Or am I getting this somehow wrong and Apple should be raked over the coals for not seeing this coming back 15 years when they designed QT?”
Apple was first notified of this bug in November of 2015 by the security researchers. They quietly ended support [link] for QuickTime for Windows two months later when they released a security update that did not address this vulnerability. They just got around to redirecting [link] the main QuickTime download page to reflect this fact sometime in the last few days, after the Internet storm. Even then, the new “Where to get answers about QuickTime 7 or QuickTime 7 Pro” doesn’t mention the unresolved security issues which Apple has known about for almost six months now.
Bugs happen. It’s a vendors response that counts for me. And I do think the standard should be pretty high for “platforms” like QuickTime, Acrobat and Flash.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “Bugs happen. It’s a vendors response that counts for me. And I do think the standard should be pretty high for “platforms” like QuickTime, Acrobat and Flash.”
Okay then.
All the virus issues that have ever plagued Windows over the past 30 years, are exclusively Microsoft’s fault?
I’m being snarky, yes, but Apple very publicly jettisoned Quicktime as being the foundational core of their video systems half a decade ago.
If somebody is still operating on Win98, I’m not sure how much of any malware problems that user experiences can be laid EXCLUSIVELY at Microsofts feet.
At some point, you’ve GOT to modernize.
Again, so far as I’ve heard, not one user has lost one frame of data to this “huge security hole” that’s being screamed about.
So people appear to have ample time to address these issues. Just as they have ample time to read and adapt to the issues on the PC side.
In this era, where both manufacturing and troubleshooting have migrated to a 24-7 thing from the days when a software update was perhaps a once every year or two thing. It’s just something we all have to get used to.
Discovered vulnerabilities, performance bottlenecks, advances that both DO and DO NOT come with associated gotchas – that’s the new order of things. Like it or not, software is now more of a JIT delivery thing.
Something we simply have to get used to on all sides.
Just my 2 cents.
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[Bill Davis] “All the virus issues that have ever plagued Windows over the past 30 years, are exclusively Microsoft’s fault?”
Yes, in fact they were. Windows used to be insecure because of poor system design. (I’d argue the term “plagued” is an outdated POV that has been massive overstatement for almost a decade now.)
[Bill Davis] “I’m being snarky, yes, but Apple very publicly jettisoned Quicktime as being the foundational core of their video systems half a decade ago. “
Most developers saw the writing on the wall and have been quietly replacing QuickTime with their own proprietary implementations. But Apple just officially jettisoned QuickTime on Windows three months ago, and even that only really became public knowledge when TrendMicro informed the world. Prior to that, QuickTime for Windows was very old and very creaky, but still maintained.
Of course, Apple is free to do as they see fit, and I can certainly understand why they wouldn’t see fit to continue maintaining QuickTime on any platform, let alone the competition’s.
But it’s disheartening to see yet another Apple product that an industry was built on disappear without a suitable replacement. This is exactly why open standards exist.
[Bill Davis] “If somebody is still operating on Win98, I’m not sure how much of any malware problems that user experiences can be laid EXCLUSIVELY at Microsofts feet. At some point, you’ve GOT to modernize.”
Microsoft is actually a great example of a company that supports their ecosystem. You don’t have to continue using Windows 98, because Microsoft has been developing the Windows platform and modernizing continuously.
[Bill Davis] “In this era, where both manufacturing and troubleshooting have migrated to a 24-7 thing from the days when a software update was perhaps a once every year or two thing. It’s just something we all have to get used to… Like it or not, software is now more of a JIT delivery thing. Something we simply have to get used to on all sides. “
It is something YOU have to get used to, because you’re committed to the Apple ecosystem. Other vendors value stability (as in frameworks that don’t change behavior often, not as in whether applications crash or not).
Good software architecture should permit new innovation without excluding continuity from the past.
Walter Soyka
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Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “Good software architecture should permit new innovation without excluding continuity from the past.”
This is something Microsoft sticks the landing on, as well as anybody in any software sector, and better than most. They publish a very long-sighted road map, have long public betas, include dates for when products will be discontinuing development, and at which later subsequent date Msft will discontinue support. Typically 2-3 years after EOL, but depending on product line, can go further.
That’s not to say that you’ll like their stuff any more as a result, or that they’re free of other issues. But everything I’ve ever heard anybody say about the way they wish Apple would behave, Microsoft is actually doing in spades.
But really, anybody who crawls in bed with Apple has to expect unpleasant surprises on a regular basis. Apple doesn’t even bother to say “But this has never happened to me before!” because everyone knows it happens all the damn time. LOL
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[Andrew Kimery] ” To be the best of my knowledge Avid, BM, Lightworks, etc., have not. Go to the official Avid boards and you’ll see users asking Avid to officially comment on it like Adobe already has.
“Update: Avid just commented the day before yesterday.
https://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/How_To/QuickTime-Support-and-Security-on-Windows
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
@keenlive | RenderBreak [blog] | Profile [LinkedIn]
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