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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 15, 2011 at 4:17 am

    [Chris Kenny] “it’s why we are arguing so hard – we’re screaming around this thing and the truth is it’s organised like iphoto, it presents imovie’s timeline, and the clip connections have no resonance or meaning really.”

    Mean I know Chris, I took her out of context, but sure, selective quotations are seductive.

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  • Rick Lang

    July 15, 2011 at 4:25 am

    [Andrew Richards] “Multi-clip is coming, and will probably use some variation on the two-up look you get during Trim operations.”

    That’s what I was thinking but it will offer more than two views through some selection and navigation method as you go from camera 1 to camera 2 to camera 3 etc. Maybe some thumbnails so you can see the current contents of several cameras at the same timecode value rather than the relatively blind selection method used for auditions that must get awkward after two or three cameras.

    Rick Lang

    iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 15, 2011 at 8:49 am

    “the only way to associate items with each other inside an event is through common metadata.”

    Aside from putting anything you want, any random association of material, into the event and puttIng that media in folders in any way the user chooses.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX”
    and “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press

  • Richard Harvey

    July 15, 2011 at 11:04 am

    This is further confused by how other software uses the same words. For instance Cubase uses “Event” to mean a clip or part of a clip, i.e a segment of media such as a spoken word or sequence of notes. If you swap between Cubase and FCPX you need to have an agile mind.

  • Chris Kenny

    July 15, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Mean I know Chris, I took her out of context, but sure, selective quotations are seductive.”

    Um… that’s not a selective quotation it’s a misattributed one. I’m not sure what you’re playing at here.


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  • Chris Kenny

    July 15, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    [Tom Wolsky] “Aside from putting anything you want, any random association of material, into the event and puttIng that media in folders in any way the user chooses.”

    Err? You can create folders in events… but you can’t put footage into them. They’re used exclusively for holding keyword/smart collections (i.e. stored queries).


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  • Tom Wolsky

    July 15, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Quite right. Only with different collections. It’s the most annoyingly anal application on the planet. Even Aperture and iPhoto and iTunes let you create playlists and folders and albums as you like. Only FCPX, oh and yes, iMovie of course won’t let you.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX”
    and “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 15, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    [Chris Kenny]
    Because it can’t contain or be contained by other events. It’s not a generic hierarchical container for data, the way a folder is. It’s a flat collection of data organized using metadata and saved queries.”

    where are we, on the deck of the starship enterprise? Why are we talking balls about this thing like as if it was a next gen warpcore? It’s a lump of software cobbled together by the itunes team. Who wouldn’t presumably know editing from a hole in the ground. (he said so blasé)

    I don’t like it myself. And I am past having orgasms about relational databases.

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  • Herb Sevush

    July 15, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Walter –

    Thanks you. Good post. And it’s why I am interested in the nomenclature of X. I think a lot of time is taken with naming these things by the design team and they are clues to how they see the ap working.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Walter Soyka

    July 15, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “And it’s why I am interested in the nomenclature of X. I think a lot of time is taken with naming these things by the design team and they are clues to how they see the ap working.”

    I agree 100%.

    It’s puzzling to me that some here keep pointing to FCPX’s advanced technological foundation as evidence of the depth, reach, and direction of Apple’s plan, but in the next breath dismiss the design foundation (like the connotation of the word Event, or how much FCPX tries to abstract editorial away) as evidence of its direction.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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