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  • ProRes422 Storage Solution

    Posted by Samuel Hall on February 12, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    I’ve recently started shooting HDV with a Canon XH-A1 and transcoding to ProRes422 on my MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, 4GB RAM and Final Cut Studio 2. The drive I’m capturing to now is a G-Drive Q 500GB. I’ve noticed a significant decrease in performance (dropped frames) when playing back complex sequences.The processor and RAM don’t seem to be taking a hit with playback so I can only assume that the speed of the drive must be causing this.

    My question is whether or not it is necessary for me to go to RAID based storage like the G-RAID or if there is something else that may be causing my issue.

    Any ideas?

    Ken Summerall replied 17 years, 2 months ago 10 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 12, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    ProRes is a higher data rate than HDV. So you want at least a two drive array to work with that format when possible.

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  • Samuel Hall

    February 12, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Thanks Walter.

    Do you have any suggestions for a low cost (sub $1K) RAID solution? I’ve been looking at the G-Raid 2 and a Drobo. I’ve heard that the Drobo is better for redundancy than speed. Also, would I notice a significant difference if I created a software RAID as opposed to a hardware RAID?

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 12, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    [Samuel Hall] ” I’ve been looking at the G-Raid 2 and a Drobo. I’ve heard that the Drobo is better for redundancy than speed. “

    Drobo is not for editing, archiving only.

    I would try to get an eSATA array if you can, call the guys at MaxxDigital and ask them for a recommendation. They sell all brands including their own. They can give you a good idea on the best performance for the price.

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  • David Roth weiss

    February 12, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    [walter biscardi] “Drobo is not for editing, archiving only. “

    Actually, the latest Cow news blast that came out just today features Drobo, and they are in fact promoting it as a storage solution for video editing, and they have testimonials from guys doing just that. See the link below…

    https://newsletters.creativecow.net/sponsors/2009/02-12/index.html

    Like you, I don’t think I’d use Drobo for editing, but apparently some people are.

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  • Samuel Hall

    February 12, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Thanks. I’ll check that out.

  • Alan Okey

    February 12, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    The CalDigit HDElement is a little over $1K, but you should really give it consideration. It will work with both laptop and desktop systems, and is a true hardware RAID solution.

    Bob Zelin sums it up nicely in this post:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/228/686

  • Jim Glickert

    February 13, 2009 at 4:27 am

    My setup is similar to yours, so maybe this may be of some help. I have a Canon HV-20 camcorder and MacBook Pro (2.4 GHz; 4 GB RAM), running Final Cut Studio 2. The camcorder captures HDV, but I bring it in to FCP as ProRes422.

    I have a CalDigit S2VR Duo (1 TB capacity) and CalDigit’s FASTA SATA adapter. The S2VR Duo is set up as RAID 0. I paid about $900 for it a year ago–I would imagine it’s less expensive now.

    It works great for me. I’ve never had a problem with dropped frames.

    Jim

  • Chi-ho Lee

    February 13, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    The Caldigit is truly great but you’ll need the express34 adapter which costs extra so it’ll prob be over $1k. Look into Firmtek. They make a 2 bay esata box and bundle it with a 34 adapter.

    CHL

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  • Samuel Hall

    February 13, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    [Chi-Ho Lee] “Look into Firmtek. They make a 2 bay esata box and bundle it with a 34 adapter. “

    Firmtek looks very interesting.

    I think it’s either gonna’ be Firmtek or the G-RAID 2.

    Does anyone have any experience working with the Fantom RAIDs?

  • Anne Mills

    February 13, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Also check out the CalDigit VR, it’s a two drive system, quad interface and supports RAID 0 and 1. It has an environmental monitor and an LCD display which is nice. You can easily use it with your setup, plus they sell an express card for your macbook Pro.

    Check it out here:

    https://www.caldigit.com/CalDigit_VR/

    If you have any questions give them a call they’re really informative.

    Found it on Macworld and it says the 1.2TB starts at $499, which is a great price.

    https://www.macworld.com/article/138592/2009/02/caldigitvr.html?lsrc=rss_main

    Anne

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