project takes forever to open (vegas pro 10)

[John Rofrano]

[Renato Zuma] “I have a q6600 cpu and 2GB’s of fast ram modules. Not the best machine of the world but it can’t be considered slow for Sony Vegas. Or can it?”

2GB of memory is not a lot for working with AVCHD. You might see an improvement by adding memory. You have 4 cores so you should have at least 4GB of memory. Check the Task Manager and see what’s going on when you are loading the project. Is the computer trashing or consuming a lot of memory?

~jr

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[Jeremy Rasnic]

Is the “hours” that you are waiting time that is spent building the peaks? Is it loading OFX plugins? If so, are you using Vegas Pro 10b or c? Those updates should speed up the OFX loading.

j razz

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[Steve Rhoden]

No No …….Something is wrong with your system.
Some process is happening in the background that is causing you
these problems. But its hard to be specific and offer solutions
not knowing all that you have on your system…etc.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Creative Arts Director and Film Maker.
Project Samples at:
http://www.youtube.com/hentys

[Renato Zuma]

Memory usage while it’s loading my project goes up to 1,12gb. Still lots of juice available. It’s not like my pc is freezing or crashing. Still, should it really eat so much memory just to load a 15min project?

(may sound stupid but I didn’t find how to respond to the entire thread at once so I just clicked to reply John Rofrano altough I’ll comment on all previous inputs)

Jeremy, it just says “opening project blablabla.veg” and shows progress percentage. There’s nothing saying what it’s loading specifically. Anyway I’ve let Vegas upgrade itself to it’s last version.

Steve, I doubt there’s another process slowing things down, unless it’s hidden and it’s related to Vegas, because I have no problems with all other softwares I use.

Ok, after 2 hours and 20 minutes my project is finally loaded (lol). I realised there’s no previewing problems: no black screens at all and it’s now fast like in any other video format without the need of shift+b.
So I should assume that Vegas 10 precaches and processes all frames before loading the project, while Vegas 9 wouldn’t cache anything unless you force shift+b?
That makes sense. As I said, previewing AVC files were a nightmare in Vegas 9 and it’d take a lot of time just to cache a 30 secs event.

Well, if this is it, what codecs does Vegas like more so that it’d speed things up?
My project consists of editing 1 hour of AVC/AAC video into 15 minutes of whatever is faster for Vegas. Source files were in AVI containers, I used MediaCoder to convert them to mp4. Maybe I messed up the configs? Can you guys help me configuring those settings properly so I can import Vegas-friendly files to my project?

Thanks guys.

[Stephen Mann]

“No No …….Something is wrong with your system.”

Yes, 2GB of RAM.

And the OP didn’t say but with 2GB of RAM, I’ll bet he is still on XT.

Steve Mann

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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[Renato Zuma]

Not sure what you mean by XT. But if you meant XP, no. I’m on seven 64bits.

Anyway, if that was related to lack of memory, shouldn’t memory usage be close to my 2GB’s on task manager and my pc going slow and about to freeze up? Cuz that’s not happening at all. Vegas was loading my project while I was replying to this thread, talking to my girfriend on msn and surfing the web with lots of tabs on chrome. And memory usage wouldn’t go higher than 1,15gb.

[John Rofrano]

[Renato Zuma] “My project consists of editing 1 hour of AVC/AAC video into 15 minutes of whatever is faster for Vegas. Source files were in AVI containers, I used MediaCoder to convert them to mp4. Maybe I messed up the configs? Can you guys help me configuring those settings properly so I can import Vegas-friendly files to my project?”

Vegas is not expecting AVC in an AVI container. This is the worst possible format to edit. What format are your original files? Why aren’t you editing them?

If you want to use a more edit friendly format, buy CineForm NeoScene and convert the footage to CineForm intermediaries. These will edit smoothly and retain all the quality of your original footage. If you don’t wan to spend the money (NeoScene is $99 USD) you can use a tool like AviDemux and convert the footage to Motion-JPEG with PCM audio which will also edit smoothly. If you are not working in HD, you can even convert your footage to DV AVI.

BTW, do you have any codec-paks installed (like K-Lite)? These will mess up Vegas as well.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Renato Zuma] “Not sure what you mean by XT. But if you meant XP, no. I’m on seven 64bits.”

If you are on Windows 7 64-bit you should have more than 2GB of memory. With 2GB of memory I would recommend using Windows 7 32-bit. The 64-bit version has more overhead and you’d actually have more available memory using the 32-bit version with memory constrained systems like yours (these are Microsoft’s recommendations not mine). You really should buy more memory and have at least 4GB for a QuadCore to work efficiently.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Renato Zuma]

=== I’m sorry. Some moderator could kindly move down this reply to the other John Rofrano’s reply below, please. I was still confused by the way this board works. Think I’ve finally learned. ===

A friend of mine recorded game scenes using fraps, which gives out files bigger than 50GB. So he converted original fraps formats to H.264/AVC in order to upload smaller files for me to edit them.

In this scenario, for the next games he records what codecs should he use instead to convert fraps files into small files and keep it vegas friendly, without losing quality (which by the way isn’t HD. Quality is actually kinda poor. Just don’t want it to be worse)?

Back to my end, so my best option now is to convert these AVI H.264/AVC to Motion JPEG? Am I losing quality? I’m gonna try that.

My codec pack is the Win7codecs by Shark007. I didn’t have any additional codecs until I realised I couldn’t drop AVC files into Vegas, so I found this by googling.

[Renato Zuma]

You convinced me. I’m gonna get 2GB’s more. Not just for vegas but for general purpose.