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Problems with HDCP.
I create AV compositions using Video sampling, this involves ripping and re edditing sections of films and using them to create music and new video compositions, up untill now I’ve always worked with plain dvd, but am currently trying to move to using Blu-ray films as my source footage, so far I’ve had two problems, perhaps some of you may be able to help give me some advice on.
Firstly, the drive I chose to buy, (LG Blu-ray drive) won’t play Blu-ray discs on my PC, the Cyberlink software it comes with says that playback canot continue and sugests my monitors are not HDCP complient. (Does this really mean I need to spend again to get a DVI HDCP compliant monitor to get this drive to work?) my current monitors are plain old non HDCP VGA 19″.
I uninstalled all the Cyberlink/Power dvd software and started looking in to way’s to ripp and convert the Blu-ray discs (this is a common part of my work as an AV Artist) the most important thing being to preserve the quality – bit for bit ie the exact quality and resolution the blu-ray files are on the disc (AV compositions are projected over very large screens and need to be very large in size to accomodate) but I found Ripping and converting Blu-ray was far from straight farward, I had some limited succes with DVDFab, it did rip a 20gig m2ts file (great) however it won’t rip individual chapters (which would help for re editing) 20gig can take an hour or so just to load in to an editing app like Sony Vegas, and I found again Vegas also won’t display the image, is this sony’s HDCP kicking in again? Cirtainly none of the convertors I’ve tested will work propperly and the only one that does (ISkysoft) won’t keep the original image resolution 1080×1920.
Please offer any advice that you can, I’m getting very depressed about this, and having to outlay so much money on Blu-ray drives, movies, screens etc before I can even know if what I want to do is even possible is getting to me.
Please don’t get me wrong, I am not a video pirate, my only motivations in ripping Blu-ray films are purley artistic ones, also if you would let me know what your expieriences with HDPC are, and any Apps that you have found work well for ripping Blu-ray discs or any good conversion software you might use. Also what do you think might be causing my problem? is it all down to HDPC, is this why none of my ripping/conversion software will not work? Any dvd – Clone dvd – HandBrake, I’ve tried most of them now, to no avail.
Regards Richie.
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> Firstly, the drive I chose to buy, (LG Blu-ray drive) won’t play Blu-ray discs on my PC, the Cyberlink software it comes with says that playback canot continue and sugests my monitors are not HDCP complient. (Does this really mean I need to spend again to get a DVI HDCP compliant monitor to get this drive to work?) my current monitors are plain old non HDCP VGA 19″.
More than likely it’s not your monitor that is preventing you from playing Blu-ray discs but your video card. If you don’t have an HDCP compliant video card you cannot watch Blu-ray disc on your PC. I have an ASUS Geforce 8600GT SILENT/HTDP/256M (HDCP Ready) video card and I bought it specifically because it was HDCP compliant. I have no problems watching Blu-ray discs on my PC.
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I haven’t tried Blu-ray, but I have a close personal friend (*ahem*) that pulls clips from DVDs often enough (to cite as examples in videos) that your symptoms sound familiar. I agree that it seems like at least part of the problem is the duration of the clips: even 1GB MPEG-2 files can take a minute or more to load and will sometimes crash. I’d also guess that the audio is often the problem, more times than not (multiple language channels, etc.). My pal has even discovered that Vegas 8 under WinXP is the most reliable combo for this task (Vegas 8 or 9 (32 or 64) + Vista64 just won’t open some VOB files).
* BTW, not to derail the conversation too much and without speaking to specific cases, using clips as examples and remixing can be covered by Fair Use. It is, however, unquestionably a violation of the DMCA to rip Blu-ray and defeat CSS on DVD-Video discs. The MPAA recommends that you use your camcorder to record the screen, which will unquestionable work in your situation: here’s the MPAA’s video explaining how to do it.
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