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Pro Video Formats Update!
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Same here – opened up super fast for some reason…
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
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Downtown Long Beach, California
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Jeremy wrote [Nice!
Looks like it was Apple that purchased MXF4mac!
Jeremy]Nobody knows. But make a search for the chief engineer of MXF4mac at Apple’ employee list.
– Andreas
Spherico
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become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
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[Shane Ross] “If the footage doesn’t exist in two locations…it doesn’t exist. Unless your footage is backed up…twice, then it really isn’t backed up.”
+1
Well said. You are most vulnerable the moment you take the card out of the camera because you only have one copy. I immediately create a Camera Archive to my RAID 5 array. Then I backup the archive from the RAID 5 into an external hard drive. Finally I import the media into my Library so there is always a working copy and two backups. Note that RAID 5 in and of itself is not a backup. RAID 5 is for uninterrupted use in case of a single drive failure. You still need a backup!
[Shane Ross] “Those hotheads will lose a drive or not back up a P2 card and lose footage and they’ll really be hurting. “
I rather like the saying: “There is no compression algorithm for experience!” 😉 (over time, they will learn)
~jr
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[John Rofrano] “Well said. You are most vulnerable the moment you take the card out of the camera because you only have one copy. I immediately create a Camera Archive to my RAID 5 array. Then I backup the archive from the RAID 5 into an external hard drive. Finally I import the media into my Library so there is always a working copy and two backups. Note that RAID 5 in and of itself is not a backup. RAID 5 is for uninterrupted use in case of a single drive failure. You still need a backup!”
So two copies of the media are on the same array? I’d call that one backup, not two backups. It would protect against corruption(pretty rare) not media failure. Everyone has their own system that works for them, so I’m not criticizing here. But I’d be uncomfortable relying on a backup on the same drive. If your external dies while on the shelf you are pretty vulnerable to loss. If your external drive is always live then it’s less risk as you would know when it dies.
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[Andreas Kiel] “Nobody knows. But make a search for the chief engineer of MXF4mac at Apple’ employee list.”
What a coincidence. 🙂
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[Brett Sherman] “So two copies of the media are on the same array? I’d call that one backup, not two backups.”
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I have 3 physical drives for backup and a 4th for working in progress. The RAID 5 has 9TB of all of my archives on-line (Camera Archives and Project Archives). That is backed up to external hard drives via USB 3. I back up the camera archives to a different drive than the projects. These are 1TB drives so there are multiples of these as they get full.
That’s 3 copies of backup because while the camera archives contain all of the footage, the project archives also contain the footage again that I’ve used in the project because I always copy the media into my libraries. So the footage exists twice on the RAID 5, then again on the Camera Archive backup drive, then again on the Project Archive backup drive but only the footage I’ve imported into the project.
Then the 4th place is my video project drive where all of my current work is. That’s the 4th copy while I’m working but at the end of the project that gets archived to the RAID 5 and an external project backup drive and gets removed from my working projects drive. So that’s not really a backup because it’s transient. In the end I’m left with 3 copies on 3 drives (Camera Archive drive + Project Archive drive + RAID 5) When the 9TB RAID 5 gets full I’ll just buy another one. It’s a CineRAID 4 disk enclosure with 4 x 3TB WD RED NAS drives with the RAID controller built in.
This is what it looks like:
Backup Storage:
RAID 5 -> Camera Archives + Project Archives
Ext HD 1* -> Camera Archives
Ext HD 2* -> Project Archives
* multiple drives as they get fullWorking Storage:
Video Projects HD -> Current projects but these are transient for the life of a projectHope that clears up any confusion. I think you assumed I was editing on the RAID 5 as well. I am not.
~jr
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[Walter Soyka] “Really? Did I miss something?”
No, you didn’t miss anything (and in my experience you rarely do.) Sorry, I’ve been out of the loop for a few days but what I was referring to was Avid’s increasing emphasis on AMA which in my experience has been, to put the best face on it, a mixed bag. MXF in my opinion has always been one on the main reasons that Avid has been so solid for so many years.
Tim
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[TImothy Auld] “I was referring to was Avid’s increasing emphasis on AMA which in my experience has been, to put the best face on it, a mixed bag. MXF in my opinion has always been one on the main reasons that Avid has been so solid for so many years.”
Sorry, now I understand. I agree. Direct native media import is useful, but there certainly is something to be said for an optimized managed media store. (See also FCP X, Autodesk Smoke.)
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[TImothy Auld] “No, you didn’t miss anything (and in my experience you rarely do.) Sorry, I’ve been out of the loop for a few days but what I was referring to was Avid’s increasing emphasis on AMA which in my experience has been, to put the best face on it, a mixed bag. MXF in my opinion has always been one on the main reasons that Avid has been so solid for so many years.
Tim
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It’s not an either/or thing though. For example, you can use AMA to create links to your tapeless media so you can do an offline/online workflow.
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[Andrew Kimery] “For example, you can use AMA to create links to your tapeless media so you can do an offline/online workflow.”
Andrew – Are you using AMA for “heavy lifting” editing or just preview and selection and then transcode from there? Last time I looked at AMA, many Avid folks themselves said it was best used for selection, not heavy editing. That was a couple years ago, however.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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