Premiere wish list

[Eric Jurgenson]

Don’t assume… You make an ass out of u and me. : )

I just think it’s high time Adobe does whatever it takes to make Premiere best of breed (like AE and Photoshop). They’ll make money in the long run, and we’ll all be happier (except for the macheads).

[Mike Cohen]

Great reading this thread.
I agree with Tim, Adobe is going to do what it can, but certainly not please everyone. It took Photoshop 5 versions to get the text tool easy to work with.
Perfection takes a while.

My office has a Media 100i on a G3 on one desk, and Premiere Pro directly opposite, I can just about reach them both with my arms extended.

I have assigned as many keyboard commands to Premiere Pro to emulate Media 100 as possible.

Obviously PPro adds numerous great features which M100 does not have.
The few it does not have which M100 does have are seemingly obvious features for a “PRO” editor, but what are ya gonna do?

Interesting that Adobe tacked the word Pro on to their existing product, probably to verbally compete with FCP, yet not including some of the Pro features as FCP.

Not having a G5 or FCP or AE for that matter I cannot say which is better, but from what I read FCP does everything. Does it do everything well? Probably not.

Well that’s my two and a half cents. I can do things in PPro that I could not do on my M100 or certainly not on my Ampex ACE 25. However the ability to manually control the ADO with a joystick was great!

Mike

[Dave Friend]

[Tim Kolb] “I suppose it could be switchable in the preferences”

That’s all I am really asking. Each alignment type is equal valid. It’s just that my mind’s eye sees it in terms of “it starts here” as meaning at the cut. But hey, that’s just me.

After nearly a decade of using NLEs I’m pretty sure the changeover is as complete as it’s going to get. Maybe it’s the once every three months or so sitting down in the linear suite that’s holding me back?

And I am really enjoying this thread.

Dave

[Eric Jurgenson]

I don’t mean to disparage the mac folks. The reality is I’m jealous of the functionality in FCP, but I prefer the power and economy of the PC. I also have a vision of what could be if Adobe gets busy. I don’t see FCP as the ultimate editing app; I think Premiere is 80% of the way toward coming up with something better on the PC.

I am trying to keep my suggestions relatively simple to implement by (for example) borrowing features from other Adobe apps, or modifying existing tools.

As far as the appropriateness of bringing up suggestions on the eve of the 2.0 release, why not? This is the time when Adobe should be considering their next move, and when users can decide whether Adobe is really serious about Premiere becoming a truly pro editing application.

[Tim Kolb]

[Eric Jurgenson] “As far as the appropriateness of bringing up suggestions on the eve of the 2.0 release, why not? This is the time when Adobe should be considering their next move, and when users can decide whether Adobe is really serious about Premiere becoming a truly pro editing application.”

Did I say anything about not bringing this stuff up? Shoot out all the suggestions…they do get back to Adobe. All I’m saying is don’t think that because every suggestion isn’t implemented immediately that somehow Adobe isn’t listening to the suggestions.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Tim Kolb]

[Dave Friend] ”
After nearly a decade of using NLEs I’m pretty sure the changeover is as complete as it’s going to get. Maybe it’s the once every three months or so sitting down in the linear suite that’s holding me back?”

We should all go back in the linear suite once every three months or so to appreciate how good we’ve got it…no matter what NLE you’re using.

🙂

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Dave Friend]

[Tim Kolb] “but don’t get into the mindset that if the feature you requested isn’t in there that somehow someone wasn’t listening…that’s all I’m saying.”

Adobe’s lack of active response has been often and loudly lamented in lots of different on-line circles. Therefore it may be not unusual for people to feel that there isn’t a lot of listening going on. I don’t really believe that to be the case. But I confess to having to overcome a bit of a “why bother” attitude before composing my list of wants. But as mom always said, “Don’t be mad at me if dinner isn’t what you wanted. What do you think I am, a mind reader?” There is also a trite saying about squeaky wheels and grease that may apply too.

Part of what makes this discussion so interesting is the variety of view points regarding what people see as the most important feature. I’m just glad I’m not the one who decides how limited development resources get spent. It has got to feel like a “no win” job as some user is always going to be unhappy.

Every NLE I have ever worked with has shortcomings – every single one. So, here I am sitting at the desk investing my time learning Premiere Pro and how to work around its current set of shortcomings. All things considered, Premiere Pro is a very impressive application. I could (have, will) use it without apologies. But it could be better and it

[Dave Friend]

[Tim Kolb] “I get it…a’ la “pre-comp” in AE.”

Yeah, I suppose that’s a good analogy. I kind of struggled with the description of what is supposed to happen. All I’m really trying to say is that there should be an easy way to create a nested sequence from clips in an existing sequence.

It

[Tim Kolb]

[Dave Friend] “Part of what makes this discussion so interesting is the variety of view points regarding what people see as the most important feature. I’m just glad I’m not the one who decides how limited development resources get spent. It has got to feel like a “no win” job as some user is always going to be unhappy.

…

Please don

[Mike Cohen]

I would imagine the Adobe lunch room has the walls lined with printouts from these boards.
Once a week a bearded man in a flannel shirt walks into the room, there is a hush among the programmers, half eaten bowls of rice pudding are left on lunch trays as the selection begins. One rubber stamp which reads “fabuloso” is applied to selected feature requests, while the rest remain untouched.
Then a week later the selected features are demonstrated to the bearded one, and whittled down again to the final few which go into the update. It takes many great ideas to make a few fantastic ones.
Then when the update comes out, there are some who love the new features, some who complain about missing ones, and others who criticize even the new features, but who use them anyway.

Sound familiar?

Mike