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Premiere: Still a good choice?
Revisiting an old topic… I’m still using FCP7 (yep, I’m the one), but starting to look around. Way back when, it seemed Premiere was what most FCP editor were headed too? Comfortable with? Is Premiere still the most compatible choice?
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About 2 years into our switch. Better than ever, company is listening to our needs. I see no reason to leave the platform at this time.
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concur. And all the features that were new in CS 6 are fully mature in CC
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After 10 years of FCP, 1 year now using PP CC, can’t see why to use another tool for video editing other than PP CC – intuitive, works well, faster than FCP 7 ever knew to be, can only get better with the new Mac Pro as well.
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There are PLENTY of reasons to use other tools…it all depends on your needs. I’m currently cutting on Avid, and for a lot of what I do, it’s the best choice. But there are many MANY things that I’d prefer to do with old FCP…and now with the current Premiere. So it depends on your needs.
Yes…I know…this is a very “PC” statement (“Politically correct”…not personal computer”). But it’s true. Now we have lots of software choices and not one is best for every single editing need. But I will say, if you used FCP before, and were happy with it, Premiere Pro is the best bet for you to transition to. It does 90% of what FCP did…and even more things that it didn’t do. And you don’t have to convert footage to start editing! I love that….
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[Shane Ross] “There are PLENTY of reasons to use other tools…it all depends on your needs”
This is probably the best and hardest time to be an editor because we have SO MANY choices today. Really can’t go wrong with any of them.
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After suffering through a weekend of troubleshooting and dealing with totally inadequate support, I’d be a bit hesitant to recommend basing your company’s editing platform around Premiere. Yes, my problems occurred over THE weekend, meaning the weekend when the Cloud disappeared, and yet no one ever mentioned that THAT may have been the problem – they just fiddled around with me and eventually threw their hands in the air and suggested that I back up often and possibly try a reinstall – of a 2 month old install. Did the Cloud’s disappearance cause my problems…who knows? The fact remains that as soon as the Cloud reappeared, my issues went away, and things have been good ever since. Still, the fact also remains that I lost an entire weekend of work.
That being said – I love Premiere. I have edited professionally on Avid, Premiere and Final Cut, as well as some older systems that no longer exist, and I like Premiere the most. I found that with most other systems I was constantly having to resort to the manual just to recall how to do fairly simple tasks, while with Premiere, I can take a week or more break from editing, and when I start it up, it feels natural. Of course, I’m sure that the same can and will be said from Avid and FCP users.
Getting back to my initial point, a professional workflow MUST incorporate good support. Unfortunately, as you can determine here on the COW, as well as at Adobe’s forums, that is seriously lacking. Video support isn’t even available on weekends. Perhaps it’s just a factor that we’re small, very small, and support from a higher tier is more readily available for the big houses, I don’t know. I’m not concerned with that. I’m solely concerned with the fact that real ‘support’ hasn’t available to me when I’ve needed it.
I was at the SuperMeet when FCPX was introduced. I led several disconcerted FCP users over to the Adobe booth and introduced them to the Karls and others, who jumped right in to make them feel at home. That was an exiting time. No one could believe, or understand why Apple would do what they had just done. I’m now starting to have those exact feelings about Adobe.
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[Steve Brame] “I was at the SuperMeet when FCPX was introduced. I led several disconcerted FCP users over to the Adobe booth and introduced them to the Karls and others, who jumped right in to make them feel at home. That was an exiting time. No one could believe, or understand why Apple would do what they had just done. I’m now starting to have those exact feelings about Adobe.”
They still do that today quite honestly, I was seeing that this past April at NAB and evening events.
Adobe support has been good for us. Certainly not along the lines of AJA but then they are in a league of their own. Of course I came from 11 years on FCP where there was zero pro support for users and we had to use the Cow for all our support.
Now between the Cow, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Adobe’s own forums and colleagues, we generally get the help we need.
The loss of the Cloud not allowing people to access the log-in for a day was inexcusable and Adobe has to come up with a fail safe plan to address that. coming up with the Trial Mode workaround after 24 hours was really not acceptable either but at least it got people working again. I’m hopeful they are working on something that will allow for local log-in in the event of another server outage.
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[walter biscardi] “They still do that today quite honestly, I was seeing that this past April at NAB and evening events.”
I don’t doubt that they do at that level. Unfortunately, when a problem that I cannot track down occurs, I can’t get to anyone near that level. And if it happens to occur on a weekend, well, forget it. All this Memorial Day weekend I’ve looked like WALL-E as he played the damaged VHS tape, hoping against hope that we didn’t go down again. That level of care hasn’t translated down(or over, as it is)to support, at least for us ‘little guys’, and we moved our company here from the middle portion of your county, so I’m more than familiar with the size and scope of your house. Perhaps there’s a different level of support for the larger clients. Still, over the course of our Adobe experience we’ve paid them well north of $10K for their software, so that ought to count for something. Maybe I’m wrong.
Personally? I think that the Karls and Jason should be taken out of the role of ‘Evangelist’, and put it charge of a new division called ‘Customer Experience’, or maybe even ‘Customer Liaison’. Being a little tongue-in-cheek with that, but it does sound fun.
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So, do most people seem to be using the Cloud system? and are there PC vs Mac considerations?
I’ve have years of episodes created with FCP, on a Mac (32, 200GB drives to date), and I’ll need to tap back into those… so of course I’d like to stay Mac -
[Blake Porter] “and are there PC vs Mac considerations?”
Not overly. Adobe apps work well on both. BMD and AJA products work well on both. Just go with the OS / Machine of your choice.
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