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  • Simon Ubsdell

    August 19, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “But, as I stated in the blog, I don’t work with one workspace. I have several configurations, depending on what I’m doing at any given time, just like Media Composer’s workspaces.”

    I think for me this was the most important takeaway from your blogpost. Having your own finely-tuned workspaces for particular tasks is a great way to work and I do think Premiere allows you more flexibility in this than other offerings. The approach is not new but it’s been very well thought out so as to put the editor in control of what s/he wants to see or not see at any one time. To my mind it’s the tabbed panels approach this offers the biggest benefit here.

    I also find that swapping workspaces as the day progresses is a good way of refreshing the process – a very slight change of focus can help to give perspective or simply avoid staleness.

    For me the attraction of the Adobe method is that I’m not having to succumb to anyone else’s idea of how I should be editing. Other players (like Apple, but not only Apple) want to dictate terms – I’m sure someone will tell me these players know more about editing than I do, but I’m too old and cranky to want to hear anything about it.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Erik Lindahl

    August 19, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    With the disclaimer I haven’t really been able to use FCPX due to its shortcomings – shockingly poor A/V output support amongst other things. I do like the look of that application when I do use it every fortnight. Often it feels more thought out and well designed from the look of things. It’s however very inflexible, especially for dual or thripple screen users.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    August 19, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    [Steve Connor] “I’m sure most of us here would be very interested to hear a little more detail on that Simon and as you’ve mentioned FCPX then you’ll be allowed to post it”

    I think I’m going to pass on that. Not sure I want to run the risk of being labelled “clueless”.

    😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Steve Connor

    August 19, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I think I’m going to pass on that. Not sure I want to run the risk of being labelled “clueless”.

    Well if you REALLY learned how to use FCPX…….. 🙂

  • Oliver Peters

    August 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I do think Premiere allows you more flexibility in this than other offerings.”

    Sometimes this manifests itself in small ways. For instance, both Media Composer and Premiere Pro can display a two-up (source/program) viewer configuration. But in Premiere Pro, I can drag the dividing line between the two viewer panels so that I have a larger program window and a smaller source window. With MC, I’m locked into the same size displays. This is a small, but important feature that many editors use.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Simon Ubsdell

    August 19, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Well if you REALLY learned how to use FCPX…….. :)”

    But I’m not sure I can afford the cost of XinTwo.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Herb Sevush

    August 19, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    [Bill Davis] “If this is to be a place of neutral NLE discussion – Petition Tim and/or Katheryn to Re-brand it as such – and just REMOVE those pesky words Final Cut Pro from the forum title.”

    Why don’t You do the petitioning if the forum title bothers you so much. This has been a frequent request over the years, as you well know. But the old “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” argument tends to prevail. To paraphrase Annie Hall, people come here for the eggs.

    As for you posting about FCPX on the Ppro site – have at it. I’m sure Tim won’t mind, especially if you stir up some traffic.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
    \”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    August 19, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] ” Having your own finely-tuned workspaces for particular tasks is a great way to work”

    Indeed.

    I have 2 different systems, the first uses dual 24″ screens, the other uses a single narrow Samsung 34″ screen.

    For the single screen system I have simply modified the the standard Ppro supplied layouts that sit at the top of the screen in a “workspace layout bar”- I switch between these 4 constantly during the day: Assembly which accentuates the media tabs, Editing accentuates the timeline, Color which focuses on the Color Panel and Scopes, and Audio which brings the Track Mixer to full focus.It’s easy enough to modify each of the default layouts to allow for my own need for the multicam viewer at all points.

    The dual screen layout is different, I tend to stay with one layout throughout the day, partly because the “workspace layout bar” gets hidden when going dual screen, and even though Ppro gives me the ability to change workspaces through keyboard shortcuts I find that I don’t need it as much with all the screen real estate I have with this system. I also find that Ppro sometimes gets a little confused when handling dual screen layouts, or else I’m doing something weird when I customize them.

    The customization is essential for me as I’m a finicky old grouch who wants everything to be just so, and I appreciate this aspect of working with Ppro.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
    \”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

  • Bill Davis

    August 19, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I vote for a new name. The Taco Shop Debates!”

    Brave of you to publicly come out so pro Mexican and anti-Italian. (fake political debate rim shot to be added here for emphasis) ????

    (secretly, I too give the nod to chips and salsa over bread sticks — mostly)

    Nobody HATE me for this, please.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Bill Davis

    August 19, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “Are hordes of people driven away, as perhaps Bill would contend”

    Nope.

    People still will stop to watch a car crash no matter WHO’s involved. It’s just human nature to want to watch conflict, drama and strife. We’re wired that way.

    My objection is that it just happens that the conflict here was centered around a dismissive proposition that fundamentally questioned the value of ONE specific tool. (or NOT!)

    Now, that’s gone. But it IS still promoted as a specifically FCP X place. Titularly.

    So filling it up with threads that have LITERALLY nothing to do with FCP X, but just trade on the long gone but vague “or not” thing for their justification – increasingly stretches things away from it’s brand promise, IMO.

    Again, I’m pleased to add to the original environment of vigorous debate and verbal smackdowns – real or imagined. I just don’t want the SIGN on the building to say Oyster Bar – walk in and get a table and find that there’s not a single Oyster to be found anywhere.

    I get that exactly that happens with neighborhood bars and the “community” comes to understand that the NATURE of the bar and it’s name are in conflict and nobody much cares. – And so the LOCALS still come.

    BUT – EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO COMES LOOKING FOR OYSTERS has to decide to leave or stay if they don’t find what the SIGN promises.

    PLUS – this isn’t JUST a “neighborhood” bar. It’s a global portal that IMO should be for literally millions seeking knowledge of the thing that all those FCP X the metadata tags are directing them towards.

    And at some point, it can become “bait and switch” to say it’s an FCP X place – just one that’s morphed into one with a minority of FCP X content because ALL the threads (like a few weeks back) are about Anything and Everything except FCP X.

    My 2 cents.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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