Premiere Pro Workspaces

[Erik Lindahl]

I will give Premiere the edge on flexibility regarding its GUI, sadly it’s quite buggy and the flixbility often does render it quite ugly.

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Scott Witthaus] “(All in jest, of course…)”

I’d be fascinated to know how many more, or fewer, views would be generated if this forum were strictly limited to “on-topic” posts about FCP X.

Are hordes of people driven away, as perhaps Bill would contend, when they discover that there are topics discussed that don’t directly relate to FCP X?

Or, contrariwise, do a significant number of people come to hear random chat about all sorts of entirely “off-topic” subjects?

Tim?

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Erik Lindahl] “I will give Premiere the edge on flexibility regarding its GUI, sadly it’s quite buggy and the flixbility often does render it quite ugly.”

For four or five years after the FCP X launch, I refused to consider Premiere as a serious possibility and was determined to use FCP X as my next primary NLE after FCP7. As much as anything I hated the way Premiere “looked”.

Then last year I finally understood how Premiere’s workspace customisation could work for me – and that was the clincher.

Suddenly FCP X looked very much less attractive. And since then it has taken more and more of a backseat. Premiere’s workspace customisation opened the door for me to all the other ways in which Premiere suited my needs better than FCP X. I still like and enjoy many aspects of FCP X but it’s having to play second fiddle these days, perhaps until a new and genuinely exciting update swings the balance back the other way.

Disclaimer: this personal anecdote has no worth whatsoever, just like all personal anedcotes.

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[Steve Connor]

[Simon Ubsdell] “FCP X. I still like and enjoy many aspects of FCP X but it’s having to play second fiddle these days, perhaps until a new and genuinely exciting update swings the balance back the other way.”

I’m sure most of us here would be very interested to hear a little more detail on that Simon and as you’ve mentioned FCPX then you’ll be allowed to post it ☺

Since the last major update to FCPX I’ve completely stopped using PPRo completely as the updated FVPX interface was good enough for me.

[Oliver Peters]

[Steve Connor] “Sadly Bill, I think you may be the ONLY person left on here who imagines it’s an FCPX only forum. There actually IS an FCPX only forum on here which I can’t help noticing that you hardly ever post on?”

FWIW – There are product-specific (non-debate) forums for both FCPX and Premiere Pro. I posted my own link to this blog post in the Premiere Pro forum. Simon felt it was a good discussion point to post here as well, which is perfectly OK with me. I think here it opens up a broader discussion of customizing workspaces, not limited to Premiere Pro.

– Oliver

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[Oliver Peters]

[Neil Goodman] “This was extremely helpfull for me as I have been forced into using premiere at the shop Im working at the moment. “

I’m glad it was useful.

[Neil Goodman] “My standard – “do work” Avid timeline usually looks like this.”

If you go back to the original Avid set-up, or have spent any time with the full-blown (now gone) version of Xpress (not the software-only version), it was set up so that clips opened in floating windows, not in a source viewer. This preference still exists as an either/or setting in Media Composer. This actually allows you to work with a single floating record/program viewer in the UI. I don’t see many Avid editors work that way, but it is an option. Just not as clean as with Premiere or FCPX.

But, as I stated in the blog, I don’t work with one workspace. I have several configurations, depending on what I’m doing at any given time, just like Media Composer’s workspaces.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Oliver Peters]

[Bill Davis] “Maybe this will spread and people will become delighted to go into “The Taco Shop” and find a menu featuring mostly Lasagna?”

I vote for a new name. The Taco Shop Debates!

☺

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Oliver Peters]

[Andrew Kimery] “Thanks for the article, Oliver. Wouldn’t it be nice if X allowed such customizations? “

I completely agree. FCPX is very rigid. It works mostly, but only if you are willing to work within Apple’s design. If you look at Color Finale or Chromatic, the developers have had to create a kludgy workaround with a floating window UI, just because FCPX’s architecture does not allow for this sort of integration into the actual FCPX UI. Pretty ugly, if you ask me.

– Oliver

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[Steve Connor]

[Oliver Peters] “FWIW – There are product-specific (non-debate) forums for both FCPX and Premiere Pro. I”

Perhaps FCPX users are reluctant to start discussions on the FCPX forum because it used to be the Technique forum. The old Final Cut Pro forum used to be fantastic, great user discussions and problem solving.

[Oliver Peters]

[Scott Witthaus] “I did post over on the adobe CC debate forum the other day, commenting on how lousy the upgrade process is (for me). It was a desolate place over there. Even Andy wasn’t there! Only one person came to the “defense of the Adobe flag’: Oliver! “

If you actually read my last post there, you’ll note the PITA situation I had with Apple ID. Hardly a defense of Adobe, but rather relating where I and others have had issues with other companies.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com