Premiere Pro running like a dream. Almost.

[Tom Daigon]

This is a random problem that many of us have experienced. Please make a detailed report of your system and the problem at this link. Adobe knows about this issue and wants to help solve it. 😀

https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
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HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Christopher Tegg]

Good to know I’m not the only one! Thanks.

Any fixes?

Also I am jammed up with this error.

Can’t seem to get around it.

[/Volumes/BuildDisk/builds/mightykilt/shared/adobe/MediaCore/AudioRenderer/Make/Mac/../../Src/AudioRender/AudioPrefetch.cpp-87]

Yours thankfully

Chris

[Tom Daigon]

Post this error question here at the Hardware forum. Folks might know more about it. Good luck!

https://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Walter Biscardi]

We have not been experiencing this problem at all. Where does your raw media and Video Previews folders reside?

Ours all sits on a SAN or on local 4-8TB RAIDs. Honestly have never had a render go offline all year as you describe. Plenty of other issues in CS6, but not that one. We follow Richard Harrington’s Editor’s Guide to Adobe Premiere Pro media management structure where everything resides in one master folder for each project. Knock on wood, renders have been solid.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative Media

“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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[Christopher Tegg]

Hey there. Thanks for calling…

Maybe I do have the media structure wrong.

I’ll explain.

I’m working on a big project… feature documentary.

Um. I have 4X12tb pegasus drives, around 9tb per drive of media.

36tb…

So I’ve copied onto each drive1 tb each field drive into one folder each drive e.g.

PEGASUS1/

FOLDER CALLED OBC_1/

All my drives in there own folders

ONFP-1B
ONFP-2B
ONFP-3B
ONFP-4B
ONFP-5B
ONFP-6B
ONFP-7B
ONFP-8B
ONFP-9B
ONFP-10B

Then I keep all of my caches/previews/projects on my HD2.

I did have them thunderbolting on 1 of my pegasus drives for a while, but this is when I went funny!

Am I doing wrong according to the Richard Harrington’s Editor’s Guide to Adobe Premiere Pro media management?

Cheers

Christopher.

[Walter Biscardi]

[christopher tegg] “Um. I have 4X12tb pegasus drives, around 9tb per drive of media.
“

Yikes! I would be terrified to have that many units tied together with all my media. I would prefer a single 48TB RAID to hold all of that media in one place. With Premiere Pro working natively it’s pulling dozens of files at a time and in your case, pulling them from four different locations and everything has to be in perfect sync for all of this to work perfectly. We run a 48TB SAN and we can expand that out to 128+ TB at any time. Big projects like yours really require big, beefy RAIDs to work reliably. I speak from experience on that one, we do primarily documentaries and episodics in our shop.

[christopher tegg] “Then I keep all of my caches/previews/projects on my HD2.”

So this is an internal drive? In our case, we run a single SAN and we keep all the cache/preview files in the same location as the original media. So raw media, graphics, previews, cache (peak files) are all located together in the same place.

Now you’re pulling media from 5 location. 4 media drives plus an internal drive so when you play in your timeline, Premiere Pro has to do quite the dance to make everything like up correctly.

As an experiment, you could switch out the Media Cache / Previews to one of your media arrays and see if that helps, but quite honestly, your media storage setup for a project that large just seems like it’s asking for trouble and poor performance.

I would recommend you look at Richard’s book and in particular his chapter on Media Management. We follow that pretty much to a “T” with some modifications for our particular workflow. I actually outlined everything in my latest article here on the Cow.

Yeah, that thunderbolt daisy chaining thing doesn’t really work well in reality. Sounds great in Apple’s marketing materials but reality is that it’s very limited.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative Media

“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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[Christopher Tegg]

Can you recommend a brand that would provide a suitable 48tb stroage facility, and how much?

Thanks

Chris

We are on a pretty tight budget.

[Walter Biscardi]

We run Small Tree Granite Storage here and their new Titanium lineup is awesome. small-tree.com Great company, even better support.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative Media

“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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[Christopher Tegg]

Hey thanks for all your help…

A little naiive, but when delving into these things, with virtually no technical help and knowledge of Premiere(first time user), one tends to dive in at the deep end and just swim.

Now that I am lost at sea, I’m not really drowning, but treading water.

If i can get things to work more smoothly under the conditions, I would greatly appreciate all wise words.

Thanks ever so much.

p.s.

running an iMac – osx 10.8.2

3.4.ghz
16gb ram
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB
ssd start up

[Walter Biscardi]

[christopher tegg] “running an iMac – osx 10.8.2

3.4.ghz
16gb ram
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB
ssd start up
“

We’re running the same config but with 32GB RAM and that 48TB SAN directly connected via Ethernet through a Small Tree Thunderbolt box. I’m converting all my Mac Pro suites to iMacs over the next few months because it’s working so well.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative Media

“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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