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Premiere Pro CC and Canon MXF problems
I’m not even sure what the best way to explain this is but will try to do it succinctly and clearly…
I am relatively new to Premiere from FCP and I’ve been cutting with it for a few months. I started out with CS6 because I had Snow Leopard. Just recently upgraded to Mavericks and then was able to download Premiere Pro CC. I have a project that I started in CS6 and am now having trouble with it in CC.
All of the footage was shot with a Canon C300 and I immediately brought it all in via the Media Browser and made timecoded review files for my client. all worked fine. Now that I am opening the project for the first time with CC, the clips are all messed up. It seems that it has something to do with spanned clips not being spanned any more.
There are numerous duplicate timecodes and missing timecodes. When I look through the media browser at one particular spanned clip with three parts to it, I see all three but they are all the exact same. The only difference is the clip names. My best guess is that with all spanned clips, it is not recognizing the metadata for any section but the first one, resulting in multiple clips that are carbon copies of one another in my project.
I tried re-importing the clips but they do the same thing. I read through some posts online and have found some similar (but not identical) problems. When in the Media Browser, I do not have the ability to select “Canon XF” but only “File Directory.”
Any idea on what is happening, and how to fix it?
Big Thanks!
Mike
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22 Replies
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Have you looked at the camera card (or copy I imagine) in Prelude does it still show it messed up?
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I just opened Prelude for the first time and went to ingest to view the clips and it seems that they see the same thing. I went to one particular spanned clip with three subclips inside and they all look like the same clip.
I also went to my external drive, where I have the original files and they look the same when viewed in premiere pro.
thanks.
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After looking into this more, it appears that I could just pull out the first clip within my spanned clips and the entire clip is there. However, when I do this, the timecode numbers are wrong but I can’t seem to figure out why that would be. The starting timecode of the one that I’m troubleshooting is about 10 minutes downstream of where it should be, which is almost the length of the entire spanned clip. not sure if that is relevant or not. frustrating.
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I shoot with the XF100 and have seen this problem when I used the redundant recording function. You know, like it clones the card while you’re shooting. I think I just grabbed the first clip of each shot and went from there.
Have you loaded the latest Canon utility? That might clear things up.
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The troubling thing is that when I first brought the clips in and created review files with a timecode burn, everything was fine. now that I have opened it in CC as opposed to CS6, I am having problems. When I try re-importing, it does the same thing.
I would be ok doing as you suggest, but the problem with that is that the timecode numbers are still incorrect, creating duplicate numbers and conflicts.
Is the canon utility called the Canon XF Utility? does that interact with Premiere in any way or is that just a stand-alone app that I can use to view clips independently of my editing software?
thanks.
mike
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new info. The starting timecode for each of the clips is the starting timecode of the last clip within each spanned clip. (not sure if there is a simpler way to explain that)
for example, one spanned clip has three subclips adding up to about 11 minutes of footage. there are two that are 5:13 and one that is 10 seconds. the starting TC should be 1;06;15;12 and ending at 1;16;52, but it is 1;16;42;00 on each of the three subclips and then running into timecode numbers that also exist on the clip right after this one.
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Has anything at all been done to the file structure of the camera footage between working in CS6 and CC?
It sounds like a metadata recognition problem (the metadata would be what informs PPro about the clips that are spanned, etc.)
I assume this is 50 Mbit Canon XF (XDcam422)?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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I agree that it seems like a misread of the metadata. No, there has been no change in the file structure since I started the project.
I am new to using MXF in Premiere. with FCP, I always transcoded to prores or xdcam before editing, so I am unsure where to find the info on data rate for the clips. When I select properties for one of the MXF files I get this info…
I appreciate any help I can get. would love to solve this problem.
Mike
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Yes…it’s 50 Mbit/s XDcamHD422 basically…Canon’s take on it anyway.
I assume the files were left in the folder hierarchy they were in on the camera if they worked properly in CS6.
I don’t have any C300 footage around to test myself, but I know that others edit in CC, so I don’t think there’s a specific problem with it…
Can you furnish some more detail? Where the media files are… How your metadata preferences were set in CS6 vs CC, etc.
It’s an odd behavior, certainly.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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Thanks, Tim.
I have the media files in their original folder structure from the CF cards that we recorded to. I moved them to my external RAID in a Capture Scratch folder where I keep all my video footage for all projects. I have a subfolder for the project and the Canon folders are in there with a folder for each of 3 cards.
I have not changed any of my preferences within CC from CS6. I just wen through the preferences pane within premiere and there are some funky boxes that can be checked in the “media” section and I’m not sure if any of those would make a difference.
Mike
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