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Tim Wilson
April 9, 2015 at 3:47 pm[Oliver Peters] “it really isn’t a matter of deceiving.”
Or to put it another way, ALL cuts are a matter of deceiving. 🙂
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Jeremy Garchow
April 9, 2015 at 5:04 pm[Eric Santiago] “Too funny about this Morph Cut option.
Now what if Apple came up with this….
GO!!”
I remember talking about this a long time ago. There’s a whole lot of automation that’s being built in to Pr, and if FCPX had this automation, people would scoff, but since it’s developed elsewhere, it’s “innovative”.
Whatevs.
Pr is looking good. Can’t wait to see the audio output option, because what is there right now is awful if you need to make a multitude of multichannel outputs in different configurations.
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Walter Soyka
April 9, 2015 at 5:38 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I remember talking about this a long time ago. There’s a whole lot of automation that’s being built in to Pr, and if FCPX had this automation, people would scoff, but since it’s developed elsewhere, it’s “innovative”.”
I think this goes to the auteur theory of software development.
Apple tends to aim for simplicity and elegance as design goals. Sometimes (but definitely not always!) this means sacrificing flexibility or power.
Adobe tends to aim for flexibility and power as design goals. Sometimes (but definitely not always!) this means sacrificing simplicity or elegance.
With different values or development philosophies like these, automation could sometimes (but definitely not always!) have very different ramifications on the user.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Jeremy Garchow
April 9, 2015 at 6:58 pm[Walter Soyka] “I think this goes to the auteur theory of software development.”
That thread died on the vine! 🙂
[Walter Soyka] “With different values or development philosophies like these, automation could sometimes (but definitely not always!) have very different ramifications on the user.”
By ramifications, do you mean a person’s feelings toward said auteur (development philosophy), or the ultimate goal of the auteur’s software on the person? Because if Apple made a cut healer, and someone else makes a cut healer and the results are pretty much the same (meaning, overall, the same goal is accomplished) isn’t a rose still a rose?
Or is context everything, and one idea through the lens of one auteur, is construed differently through the lens of the other auteur, even if the auteur is focused on the same subject?
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Lance Bachelder
April 9, 2015 at 7:20 pmWhen will we know release date? Starting a feature film in a couple of weeks and would try this…
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Walter Soyka
April 9, 2015 at 7:27 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “That thread died on the vine! :)”
Surely that’s because I was so right on that there was nothing to debate?
[Jeremy Garchow] “By ramifications, do you mean a person’s feelings toward said auteur (development philosophy), or the ultimate goal of the auteur’s software on the person? Because if Apple made a cut healer, and someone else makes a cut healer and the results are pretty much the same (meaning, overall, the same goal is accomplished) isn’t a rose still a rose? “
Apple is the company that barely lets you adjust the interface. Adobe is the company that lets you build a 747 cockpit UI. If each company applies that thinking to the way they offer automated features, then you will have very different capabilities in each application.
But if they are similar features, they are similar features. There may be howling when the features are teased, but it should certainly end when people actually, you know, use the software! Criticizing FCPX over automatic color balance lost validity immediately.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Andrew Kimery
April 9, 2015 at 8:42 pmThere was a morph cut demo from a few years ago, does anyone else remember that? Was it from Adobe or from another company? Anyway, my point is everyone was excited when they saw it so it’s cool that the feature is getting out into the wild soon.
Very cool looking new features, and although I’m not a huge AE user, the speed improvements look great. It’s awesome that what started as a hypothetical question in a blog post turned into reality once the AE user community chimed in.
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Timothy Auld
April 9, 2015 at 8:48 pmALL cuts are a matter of deceiving
Best book I ever read about editing had nothing to do with editing. “Hiding the Elephant.” It’s about 19th century magicians.
Tim
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Herb Sevush
April 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm[Scott Witthaus] “You are correct here. Morph cuts makes it simpler to deceive in some hands. At least with a cutaway, a semi-knowledgeable person could deduce that “something” might have happened underneath that cover.”
There is nothing in motion pictures that isn’t deceptive; even the motion is an illusion.
I would recommend the film “F is for Fake” by Orson Welles as the last word on this subject.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Charlie Austin
April 9, 2015 at 9:23 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “There’s a whole lot of automation that’s being built in to Pr, and if FCPX had this automation, people would scoff, but since it’s developed elsewhere, it’s “innovative”.
Whatevs. “
Yep… I’m not bashing Pr, these are nice new updates. But… if Apple announced a feature in X that let you easily make cartoon characters speak, the howls of derision would be deafening. I can virtually guarantee that if the next version of FCP X includes anything that lets you do something easily that was previously very complicated it will be mocked by many of the same people fawning over these updates.
I like the look of the Color panel in Pr… very similar to Color Finale in X which is awesome.
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