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Prem vs FCPX – Panels
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Man, what a kerfluffle because of a typo. ????
Yes, I meant to say that Apple killed FCP 7, not FCP in general. Though I’m inclined to agree with Oliver that FCPX was a Version 1 reboot and it didn’t share much with its predecessors beyond branding. I also think if Apple would’ve kept FCP 7 copies on the shelves and launched X with the ability to import FCP 7 projects the transition from 7 to X goes 100x smoother. But that’s all academic at this point.
Speaking of taking a project from 7 to X, in Bill’s opinion (and possibly others’ too) XML isn’t acceptable so going by that metric there still doesn’t exist a way to get from 7 to X. ????
[Bill Davis] “Because right now, I can take ANY of my FCP 7 or prior projects. (all the way back to FCP 1.0 if I wanted to maintain a historical machine and OS System that I obviously owned when I was using it) Launch FCP Legacy on a suitable machine. And revise my work for a client. “
If some one sends you a FCP 1.0 project you could open it up immediately, or you could hypothetically open it up if you still had a fully functioning Mac from The Year 2000 (still one of my favorite Conan skits)? In the right situation and for a single NLE this might not be totally unpractical, but don’t you think it would get unwieldily if someone was using multiple NLEs over the course of a 40 or 50 year long career? That’s a lot of computers and operating systems to freeze in place and maintain on the off chance that you’ll need to revisit a project.
Personally, I’d rather deal with XMLs and a bit of elbow grease and ideally I’d prefer a more robust, universally used format so because that would be better than either XMLs or keeping a garage full of old computers.
[Bill Davis] “That is simply NOT the case with a lapsed subscription where you get cut off from access to the enabling program code if you elect to stop paying.”
How is this different from the already existing and long established gear rental market? Or the client relationship where, w/o the producer/editor, the client has no access to their IP? I know you’ve drawn a line in the sand and I’m just trying to get a better understanding why what falls where and why.
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[Oliver Peters] “No, but you are technically incorrect. These were two different product brand names. Final Cut Pro and Final Cut Pro X. These are individual brand names, not version numbers. “
I don’t think so.
Apple calls it Final Cut Pro on their page.
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[Tony West] “Apple calls it Final Cut Pro on their page.”
Ha! Ha! Man, you are working too hard at this! Depends on where you look.
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– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “Depends on where you look.”
Maybe we should just agree that Apple was and is completely inconsistent on how they’ve named it!
☺– oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Tim Wilson] “You know what, it’s clear to me after the last several generations of hardware that Apple’s priorities and my priorities are irreconcilable. I no longer find Macs to be delivering the performance, scalability, or compatibility I require.”
You never said that. You said FCPX sux, oh wait now Adobe sux worse, oh wait, FCPX is pretty good now. LOL Sorry, not meaning to diminish your pain, just playing — but that’s about it, right? Apple’s development or non-development of Macs wasn’t the prime mover in any of your decisions. Your story has played out EXACTLY the same way for people who simply also used Macs when they were checking out Avid, Resolve, Smoke, and whatever else they were checking out.
I still stand by my contention that once people CHOOSE to leave MAC because of Apple painting a clear picture of a likely future of increasing divergence of priorities, they’re less likely to come back.
“It was more like FCP X sux…..Adobe doesn’t but ‘their payment model and my
business priorities are irreconcilable.’ Dang it, this means I have to learn an entirely
new NLE. And there is 4 feet of snow outside to shovel. And I have to walk to work
in it. Uphill. Both ways. And someone will take video of everyone walking to work
in the snow with their stupid phone and want to hire me for $15 to make it look like
a Hollywood film. Why am I doing this job again?But yeah I guess I’m maybe just not as concerned as everyone else here on the
‘newest, most powerful computer.’ I’ve got a six core CPU witha 6GB GPU a few
SSD’s, andI really don’t see any reason to spend thousands of dollars on upgrading
a computer that really never makes me wait. Motion graphics, editing, whatever I’m
doing, it just powers right through it. Would a newer computer be faster? Yeah, I’m
sure it would be. Is it worth me spending a few thousand on? How much faster will it be
really? I’m kinda thinking we have reached a point of diminishing returns here. Of course,
I’m the guy who won’t spend $50 a month on a subscription because buying a different NLE
once at $300 is cheaper (not to mention my beater old car and so on.) So it’s probably just
that I’m a cheapskate. On a related note, I am still in business. Try and search for video production
companies in Juneau, Alaska and see how many you can come up with……..Gabe Strong
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[Tim Wilson] “I don’t have any comments on the performance or requirements, but among the predictions I’ve gotten wrong is that Resolve would be an NLE player. I think Resolve definitely IS a player, for a lot more reasons than price. As I’ve noted many times, I’m a long time gone from actual NLE’ing myself, but the new Resolve Mini control surface would be a slam-dunk for me. The easy integration of truly robust color grading with editing was always my holy grail, and I think Blackmagic is going to gain a BUNCH of new customers with an affordable control surface that really lights that up.”
Yeah, they are doing some great stuff. That $995 panel is going to get them
a whole new crop of people jumping into color correction, in a ‘test out the waters’
manner. Some of those customers will maybe even upgrade to the more expensive
panel as their CC skills grow. And that’s not even counting what they are doing with
cameras. The new Ursa Mini 4.6K? That thing is looking better and better.
Built in ND? ISO, Shutter speed and white balance switches right where you used
to find them on broadcast cameras? Interchangeable lens mounts? Raw or Pro Res
10 or 12 bit files? $5995? Shipping now? Just give them a couple years. These guys
are doing amazing things. I said it a few years ago, and I’ll say it again…… they
are a force to be reckoned with.Gabe Strong
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[Oliver Peters] “you are working too hard at this! “
I’m not working any harder than you are.
It shouldn’t matter where I look. you said they didn’t call it Final Cut Pro and I showed you an example of just that.
He already corrected his original comment anyway, and yet YOU are trying to defend the comment that even HE corrected but it’s ME in your mind that’s working hard. hahahahaha
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It’s all good.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Tony West] “… and yet YOU are trying to defend the comment…”
But it’s such a so very important and incredibly relevant point, Tony! ????
– RK
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[Tony West] “you said they didn’t call it Final Cut Pro and I showed you an example of just that”
Just for the sake of accuracy, go back and read all of my posts. That’s not what I said at all.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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