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  • Prayers from the Church of X

    Posted by Charlie Austin on May 2, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    Like all religions, the Church of X (see “Mother Of All NLE Demos” thread for genesis story… lol) has more than one denomination. There are Evangelicals and Mainline believers. There are also Polytheists, worshipping whatever god suits their current needs. I, um… O.K., I’m gonna stop this silly analogical crap here, I wanted to do the whole post using it, but I haven’t got the patience this AM. 😉 On to my point!

    Some of us X users also use other NLE’s. As such, there are some things that X doesn’t do now that would be really useful. I’d like to hear ideas from people in this sect (there I go again… ) People who, like me, when cutting in another NLE, sometimes think “I wish X could do that, and do it better”. Then we go back to cursing whatever “not X” NLE we’re using at the time. 🙂 I don’t particularly want to hear from people are not using X “for real”, nor am I terribly interested in hearing from people who think X is perfect and don’t use other NLE’s. I know there are “Master Lists” on the web, I want to hear from actual people, not some nebulous, anonymous “X users want this” kind of stuff

    Also, I’m not talking about things X does that don’t work as expected. You know, bugs. Every NLE has ‘em, so please start your own thread to complain about those. In no particular order, here are my demands. 😉

    Things other NLE’s do that require workarounds or current features that could be reimagined/improved in X:

    -Role based effects application. Something like this would be very nice.

    -A “Master Output” fader, knob, Role whatever… To which you could apply effects.
    -Ability to select multiple edit points to trim simultaneously.
    -Keyboard based clip/edit point selection without clicking/hovering. Select a clip/edit, and arrow keys would select the clip/edit to the N,S,E,W of the selection.
    -Playhead match frame replace edit (!!!)
    -Z Order(?) Role layering selection. 1 is closest to Primary, higher numbers farther away. Multichannel/MultiRole clips or Compound Clips auto select to 1, audio components of video clips not affected (probably not as easy as it seems, but I think do-able?)
    -Gang Sync. Doesn’t have to work like other Source/Record NLE’s. Maybe like a project as single angle “multi clip”, viewed in the angle viewer that could be played in, and resynched to, a project, but be “invisible” in the viewer of that project. You’d only see it in the Angle Viewer. Or…
    -a “Match Viewer” with a source (Project or Clip) drop zone and some method of sliding and locking to a common sync point.
    -KB command to move a clip up or down vertically (within its Z layer of course! lol) Like option up/down arrow in 7/Pr
    -Add to audition but trim the clip to the timeline clip length. (“Trim and Add to Audition” command)
    -Create Auditions from stacked clips in the Project timeline
    -Round tripping to Motion (“Open in Motion” from the timeline.)
    -A “Replace All Selected” command
    -Ability to skim/play Projects in the Browser/Event Viewer. They could even keep the same “single frame with clapper” appearance, just make them playable and/or skim-able.
    -Ability to connect a clip to Project time (so it’s position would be unaffected by Primary activity) without the clip needing to be in a Secondary the length of the Project. Not sure what would happen if you changed the project start time, so it’d have to pin to a point in the timeline’s duration, not necessarily timecode. Maybe make it an unassigned KB command to prevent accidental application.
    -Remove Attributes. Not all or nothing, a dialog with choices like Paste Attributes would be nice.

    I’ll probably think of more, but that’s all that quickly come to mind. What you got? Remember, No Bugs!. Just features you miss from other NLE’s, or improvements to existing features.

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
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    Oliver Peters replied 11 years ago 18 Members · 42 Replies
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  • Steve Connor

    May 2, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    You covered all mine quite nicely there Charlie

  • Charlie Austin

    May 2, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    [Steve Connor] “You covered all mine quite nicely there Charlie”

    Maybe the Creator, being everywhere and all-knowing, will read this post and our prayers will be answered. Hallelujah!

    lol

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • David Cherniack

    May 2, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    Good constructive and instructive post, Charlie.

    From the Premiere sidelines, Go X and Halelujah. Really. The better X becomes the better other NLEs will become.

    BTW I trademarked “Church of X” and now you’ll have to pay. Big time. heh heh.

    David
    https://AllinOneFilms.com

  • Charlie Austin

    May 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    [David Cherniack] “From the Premiere sidelines, Go X and Halelujah. Really. The better X becomes the better other NLEs will become.”

    And vice-versa. Strong competition is good no matter what tool you wield. If R12 is any good it’s gonna light some fires under everyone. 🙂

    [David Cherniack] “BTW I trademarked “Church of X” and now you’ll have to pay. Big time. heh heh.”

    lol… I was gonna run off and register the churchofx.com domain, but I have too many already from knee-jerk reactions like that, so it’s all yours. 🙂 Some are kind of cool. Others, not so much. For instance, I have no idea what I’ll do with wombsforrent.com. lol

    EDIT: Bummer, someone’s already squatting on the churchofx domain… Sue them! 😉

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • David Lawrence

    May 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    Great list, Charlie.

    I’d add one more – “Pin to timeline”. Basically some way to spike a clip to an absolute time point in the primary, rather than the clips inside the primary. That would go a long way towards solving my issue of “absolute/external” vs “relative” time in the magnetic timeline.

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  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    I registered finalcutproclassic.com when X came out, but damned if everyone didn’t call it legacy in the end.

  • Charlie Austin

    May 2, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    [Bret Williams] “I registered finalcutproclassic.com when X came out, but damned if everyone didn’t call it legacy in the end.”

    heh… yeah, I still have macmates.com. I was convince the MacMate was gonna be a big hit! Oh well, maybe I can start an online dating service for Mac users? lol

    EDIT… autocorrect changed macmates to machetes in the original reply. I don’t own that. lol
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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Charlie Austin

    May 2, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    [David Lawrence] “I’d add one more – “Pin to timeline”.”

    I know we’ve had a back and forth on this but, yeah, you should be able to do that without a workaround. Maybe an unassigned (I could see this screwing people up if done by mistake) KB command to “float” a clip (i.e pin to project time wherever you put it). 🙂 I’ll add it to my prayers.

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Oliver Peters

    May 2, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    It would be nice to have a collapse function like in Media Composer. You select a range of clips on the timeline (in X’s case, connected clips) and collapse them into a single container on the primary storyline, to which you can add transitions. This is different than compound clips, since it is only in that timeline. To edit something inside this container, you don’t open the container in its own timeline, but rather open it vertically in the timeline, like you do with audio now.

    Titles that you create should be storable in an event. This way you can simply edit it to another timeline from the browser/event when needed.

    Replace needs to function both like Avid and like PPro. For example, with Avid, I can use replace as a way to edit a replacement clip against a sync point. Place the cursor on the source at the right frame which then matches to the cursor on the timeline clip. Then timeline in/outs determine the edit. Ideal for SFX. Adding gunshot SFX is the usual example used to explain the function.

    The second way replace that is useful is the way PPro does it. For example, replace from bin. This is a godsend when versioning a ton of commercials with different phone number supers. The effects applied on the timeline clips stay and the replace function simply replaces the clip. This would work well in conjunction with having created titles appear in an event.

    Remove attributes.

    Re-edit new media but leave the attributes (effects) in place.

    – Oliver

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  • David Powell

    May 2, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    FLOATING BINS!
    Seriously, I cut events with multiple cameras shooting multiple locations that have to be cut together. Its a pain not being able to line up bins next to each other. I should also say, that the match frame is problematic due to the nature of keywording since it opens up at event level which gives me no reference to the clips that were near it (which is often the purpose) and take way to much time to load. I’m not sure that this could ever be changed though.

    Extend edit (in Avid Parlance not FCP) or for PP users “trim to playhead”.
    Laying down a rough cut is great in FCPX. I absolutely hate the second pass, especially trimming to music. It’s so effortless in PP and Avid

    And lastly multiple open projects so I can pancake edit.

    Premiere Pro’s inability to mark on clips while playing is the only thing that keeps me from wanting to ditch X for event editing. I have a feeling FCPX will never add these features and PP will correct theirs. The day Adobe makes their markers and patching up to par with say Avid’s, FCPX will no longer be a “Faster” editor for events imo. Still pretty good for corporate product videos though.

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