PPro 2.0 on a laptop?

[Jacob Rosenberg]

So far I have been running PPro on my Dell laptop, it is a pentium 3.12, it’s beefy and it responds just fine. I do all my road demos and presentations with it. I would think that it would run fine on your system for most to all DV work, in some circumstances it might choke on HDV, but I couldn’t predict that with certaintly.
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[Brian Deviteri]

thanks for the reply Jacob! I can’t wait to read your new book for PPro 2.0…

if you don’t mind my asking, what are the key features that you find in 2.0 that really help you when editing on a laptop?

[Tim Kolb]

While I’m not Jacob, I use a laptop as well…a 3.2 BOXX system.

I’m not sure there are any features that specifically help you edit on a laptop…other than dockable windows do make a single monitor desktop easier to manage for sure.

For HDV, my personal opinion is that CineForm Aspect makes that a workable proposition on most computers…I ran that on a non-HT P4 2.8 Laptop I had and it ran just fine…I doubt I could say that for HDV native.

Otherwise…Premiere Pro is still kind of a handful compared to Vegas or Edius as far as horsepower required…but then I think the feature set makes the tradeoff worth it.

If you run the production studio, you’ll want a LOT of RAM for multiple apps open at once.

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[Aanarav Sareen]

Brian,
All my editing is done on the newer Centrino laptop. Works just fine. My specs are 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM and an 80gb 7200 rpm drive.

[Eric Lagerlof]

All my editing is done on the newer Centrino laptop. Works just fine. My specs are 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM and an 80gb 7200 rpm drive

You’re referring to DV footage? Do you use HDV footage as well?

[Aanarav Sareen]

Eric,
Primarily I use the laptop to edit DV footage, but I have edited HDV footage, with not not too much difficulty.

[Eric Lagerlof]

Aanarav, thanks for the reply. Here is my other HDV question. Adobe says something to the effect that editing native HDV keeps you from losing quality. But every time you cut on a non-I frame or add a dissolve or any other video processing you have to leave the MPEG world anyway, correct. So, at least in their preview clips they do what, go to an intermediate codec? Re-render to MPEG automatically? And if you are doing lots of processing, say in After Effects, is the native HDV bit really an advantage?

[Brian Deviteri]

Eric,

This is where I think Cineform will still play a large role in the post-production workflow of many users. As you know, Adobe has opted to move away from Cineform’s intermediary codec for HDV in favor of “native” HDV editing (I think it’s a marketing thing to compete with the other “big” companies). Anyone who has edited with the Cineform intermediary codec knows that the performance is top notch. Yes, it may add a little time to the process (compared to native HDV editing), but when working with the footage during an edit, and the end results, it really is worth it in my opinion. It really makes working with HDV the same as DV in terms of system performance… not much else can live up to that if you ask me.

In the end, what is all boils down to is cost. Do you want to edit HDV natively in PPro without an intermediary? If so, you will need to spend money on a beefier machine to see better results – more CPU, more RAM, faster hard drives, etc. Do you want to edit with an intermediary? If so, you can spend money on that and probably get amazing results through your current setup. Just my two cents…

Brian

[Steven L. gotz]

And the Cineform intermedate codec uses a wavelet technology that is actually able to provide a higher quality (less loss) editing experience. I, for one, will be using Aspect HD 4.0 on January 20th.

Disclosure: I am Cineform’s biggest fan. Their technology, speed to market, and online support on forums are second to none.

Steven
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Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

[Eric Lagerlof]

Brian, you offer a good perspective, it is a tradeoff isn’t it? I was disappointed that Adobe didn’t have the snap to offer a choice between ‘native’ editing and the free Cineform plug-in that came with PPro 1.5 in the 2.0 release. Sometimes I think Adobe’s approach to developing and marketing Premiere Pro is based on their approaches to Photoshop and Illustrator. Old-Fashioned and incremmental, as though PPro was being sold primarily to big corporations that could afford the upgrades year after year. PPRo was a change in stride from Premiere but somehow they still haven’t totally clicked into the creative community of small operators or even bigger post houses all that well. I guess they sell a lot of software but here in the San Francisco Bay area, when I look for freelance jobs, I see FCP editors wanted over and over-followed by a sprinkling of Avid editors. Almost no PPro editors needed. I’m reallly torn between PPro and just hopping over to Macs and FCP for greater work ooportunities. Oh well…