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Activity Forums Adobe Premiere Pro PP CS6 seems buggy on Windows and Mac, playback problems, hanging

  • Alan Peil

    August 6, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    14 read/10 write?? That has just got to be wrong – I know firewire is slow, but geez….if you can, post a screenshot from Disk Speed Test.

    You want to be around 240-300 for optimal performance. You need an internal RAID 0 setup with 2 or more 7200 RPM drives to get there.

  • Ben Edwards

    August 6, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    OK, will have another go when I boot back to Windows. Can you please expand on what you mean by optimal performance. Ime not trying to edit RED RAW! Are you saying it is impossible to edit DSLR footage using an internal laptop drive.


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Picture Editor
    https://www.funkytwig.com

    Macpro1,1 2007 6GB RAM 2*2 3Ghz Xeon

  • Chris Borjis

    August 6, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    firewire 800 drive, thats a bottle neck for cs 6.

    You pretty much need an internal SATA RAID zero at bare minimum these days.

  • Alan Peil

    August 6, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    “Can you please expand on what you mean by optimal performance. Ime not trying to edit RED RAW! Are you saying it is impossible to edit DSLR footage using an internal laptop drive.”

    Well, you can edit it, but you’re not going to get smooth playback without rendering.

    So, you are NOT using an external FW drive? Still waiting on that screen shot from Disk Speed Test. 🙂

  • Ben Edwards

    August 6, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Must of done something wrong with speediest. Its actually 41/55 ish. The FW800 drives and normal internal drive seems simelar (I do have a 3TB drive that gives > 150 but 40-55 is what I tend to get with internal drives).

    I am very surprised to learn you cant edit DSLR footage on a laptop without rendering, guess I should stick to FCP7/prores.

    When I looked at throughput when playing it peaked about 8 for DSLR but what I am actually editing is AVCHD footage whitch seems to play at under 5. Why do you need over 4* that when editing?

    Ben


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Picture Editor
    https://www.funkytwig.com

    Macpro1,1 2007 6GB RAM 2*2 3Ghz Xeon

  • Alan Peil

    August 6, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    If I was you, I’d use the drive that’s giving you >150, those internal drives must be exceptionally slow. If it’s still bogging down on you, then at least you know it’s probably not the drive.

    I don’t know why the read/write times matter so much, I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been told/have read.

    Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in here…?

    Are you sure you are using the Blackmagic 9.6.1 driver??

    You also said that you’ve tried MPE hardware – you’re card is NOT on the supported list. Did you add it to the list to get it to work? This may not be the optimal thing to do with your unsupported card.

  • Greg Baber

    August 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    You do not need a RAID 0 drive to work with Premiere Pro CS6. It will not hurt, but if you work on your internal hard drive, you should be able to get smooth playback with most files, as long as your system meets our system requirements.

    A firewire external drive is not recommended because it cannot get the speed needed to really process these video files. Most video formats, if they are compressed, can be handled by an internal drive. It’s just when you get to the larger, less compressed files that you will run into problems.

  • Jon Barrie

    August 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Are you trying to work with Full quality playback?

    DSLR at Full Quality Playback with effects and a Laptop does not guarantee you consistent Full frame rate playback. Even with a QuadroM card – and especially with non-accelerated effects. Such as “Auto” Color or Contrast.

    Drop it down to 1/2 – worst case scenario for a laptop without Quadro card drop to 1/4.

    Let us know. I am going to bet this is your issue. 🙂

    You can see if you are just dropping frame rate by having the drop frame indicator shown. During playback Green = full frame rate, yellow = dropped frames.

    – JB 🙂

    PS: the playback resolution quality doesn’t affect your export quality. It’s like a proxy resolution on the fly just to keep in a fluid creative decision space.

    Jon Barrie
    Adobe Video Solutions Consultant ANZ
    Jon’s YouTube Tutorial Page
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  • Ben Edwards

    August 6, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    No 1/2 and 1/4. Is the doped frame line the think one that appears when you play? Guess I need a drive of at least 100 MB/s, do Adobe provide any guidelines?


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Picture Editor
    https://www.funkytwig.com

    Macpro1,1 2007 6GB RAM 2*2 3Ghz Xeon

  • Ray Tragesser

    August 6, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Ben,

    sorry to break the news to you, but your system is way underpowered to edit DSLR footage natively. on a stellar machine, h.264 can be a headache to decode by the CPU. your system with all the variables, ram, CPU, disk speed, well it isn’t pretty.

    if I had that machine I would transcode to prores lt and call it a day.

    good luck.
    ray t

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