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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy PhotoJPEG vs Blackmagic 8-Bit Uncompressed

  • Aurora Support

    June 16, 2005 at 5:57 pm

    The Squared-5 DC30 Codec is MotionJPEG-A. The DC20 and DC30 cards used the old Zoran 36050 Motion-JPEG-A hardware compressor, and is almost identical to the 36060 chip on our IgniterX-family of cards.

    The RT effects in FCP implemented by Squared-5 are just entries in the FCP enabler file. Graeme is right in that this stuff is almost completely undocumented, so the guy at squared 5 has spent a lot of time reverse engineering, or he has inside access to Apple.

    – Mike

  • D

    June 16, 2005 at 6:17 pm

    Hey Matt – Do you have a DC30 Card installed? I have tried the DC30 PhotoJPEG codec out setting up a PhotoJPEG timeline and changing the effects handling to DC30 but when I throw DV files into the timeline they need to be rendered…

    Is there any way to use this codec with a Kona card?

    Cheers,

    -D

  • Matt Sandström

    June 16, 2005 at 9:26 pm

    [Aurora Support] “The RT effects in FCP implemented by Squared-5 are just entries in the FCP enabler file”

    “just”? if it works it works, right? 🙂 anyway, if you have a dc30 card they claim they use the hardware accelerations in that, and as a matter of fact they claim that they also use the graphics card accelerations as well, and also fix a number of bugs in apple’s rt extreme code. this is all from the squared 5 docs though, so don’t take my word for it…

    /matt

    https://www.mattias.nu/

  • Matt Sandström

    June 16, 2005 at 9:29 pm

    i have a dc30 card, but not installed. it’s in a pc right now but i’ll try and put in a g4 i got access to and see how it works.

    putting dv in a pjpg timeline might still need rendering, but what i did was capture at full res and 75% quality and putting that on a pjpg timeline with the same settings and it ran in realtime, which it didn’t before.

    /matt

    https://www.mattias.nu/

  • Matt Sandström

    June 17, 2005 at 12:07 pm

    after testing it further it’s definitely not just an entry but actually their own rt extreme driver. telling differences include that the gamma is slightly different, the display flashes a bit when you start and stop, and it doesn’t deinterlace scaled down images. the latter is a major pain imho. if you set display quality to medium it does deinterlace the screen playback, but not the still image when playback stops. it can look really ugly. this is all without a dc30 installed btw.

    /matt

    https://www.mattias.nu/

  • Matt Sandström

    June 17, 2005 at 12:22 pm

    dv out doesn’t work on my system with their rt enabler though. i get a small square in the corner of a green background and after a while fcp crashes. i guess i have to install that dc30 card to get monitor output if i choose to use their codec or just their enabler with the pjpeg codec then. or since i’m only using a single computer monitor i guess i can plug my second monitor output to the video monitor via s-video and using desktop preview or whatever it’s called?..

    /matt

    https://www.mattias.nu/

  • Graeme Nattress

    June 19, 2005 at 2:45 am

    “DC30 Xact Driver includes RT support for Photo-JPEG; open Final Cut Pro 4 or
    4.5 and select “Squared 5” for Photo-JPEG in the Effect Handling (System
    Settings) of FCP and you’ll get RT support for Photo-JPEG at any frame size
    (I call it “Online RT” because it is not limited to 320×240). If you have
    Final Cut Pro 5, then you will have to wait for the next version of DC30
    Xact Driver because the current version is not compatible with Final Cut Pro
    5.

    Regards,
    Squared 5″

    Is the reply I got! Sounds like we need to get the new driver.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Matt Sandström

    June 19, 2005 at 2:58 am

    perhaps we should let them know that their driver does not work with dv out. at least not on my system (4.5).

    /matt

    https://www.mattias.nu/

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