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Philip Bloom Asks Seven Editors to Share Their FCP X Experiences
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Here you go with the personal attacks again. WTF? You can dish it out but you can’t take it…
I’m myopic? Guilty as charged. But again, go to mirror, go directly to mirror, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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[Lance Bachelder] “Here you go with the personal attacks again. WTF? You can dish it out but you can’t take it…”
Excuse me? We must live in completely different realities.
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Well hopefully you stay so busy you don’t get the time!
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suggesting that other posters are unprofessional, one-dimensional, or incapable of critical thought.
Just plain weird response. I didn’t even mention any names when I said “haters” but look at who chimed in…
There are a few obvious FCPX haters here, we all know who they are because they chime in EVERY time there’s a positive report about X. This thread is a prime example – just read some of the responses.
But hating on X doesn’t mean they are unprofessional, one-dimensional or incapable of critical thought. I’ve never implied any of those things. There are a few who I think are hacks for certain but that’s based on their work and demo reels and is my opinion. They may think the same of me and my work and are free to do so.
Lance Bachelder
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You chimed in after me and got personal with me right away. I understand you may be too busy to give FCPX a serious go at the moment. But why the need to get so aggressive here? Even with Bill who’s like the nicest guy on the Cow!
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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[Lance Bachelder] “Just plain weird response. I didn’t even mention any names when I said “haters” but look at who chimed in…”
How coy. I have let your oblique insults (to myself and others whose heads appear on the top of this forum) go by without comment in the past, but this is ridiculous.
When I do consulting work, I’m paid for my analysis. If you’re calling me a hater, you’re attacking my credibility. If you’re not calling me a hater, then you’re calling someone else here a hater, and you’re attacking their credibility.
There’s pretty much just one rule on this forum: critique ideas, not people. I’m calling you out for violating it, and I’m asking you to stop.
Over the last seven months, I’ve been labeled a hater, a whiner, a Luddite, a dinosaur, and maybe even a hack — all because I’ve discussed my concern about Apple’s treatment of their professional customers, and because I’ve detailed how FCPX doesn’t fit my workflow (today).
The fact that I’ve also praised Apple for developing features in FCPX like its high-quality rendering engine, unique Motion rig integration, and DAM-in-an-NLE metadata handling — or the fact that I’ve actually recommended that a couple of my clients evaluate FCPX because it suits their workflows well — doesn’t seem to matter.
Others have suffered the same treatment here.
These labels are all wrong and inappropriate, and they falsely divide the community. Everyone in this thread has a legitimate professional and intellectual interest in what this software is offering, and they should be free to offer their opinions for debate without fear of personal attack.
Lance, I think everyone here would be very interested to hear your thoughts on feature workflow with FCPX. You could use the depth of your experience and the nature of your work to add a lot value to the conversation here.
Calling unspecified people names adds no value and is highly disrespectful to those of us actually trying to discuss the issues.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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I think “hater” is an online term of affection – you’re taking this waaaaayyyyy too seriously Walter. If I say “Yankee’s Suck” are you going to wanna fight me on it or take as a friendly jab from a fan of an opposing team (Angels for the record). Now if I said “Jeter sucks and is one of the biggest jerks in sports” that would be INSANE! He’s one the all-time great Yankee’s, players and athletes and a great guy. And I can say that objectively as a baseball fan and as someone who respects the fact that the Yankee’s ownership and management is 100% committed to winning every single season. But when the Yanks play the Angels, I’m a hater lol!
The problem in this forum is the continual bashing of anyone who says anything good or positive about FCPX. And when someone stands up to them and calls them out on it they’re the bad guy. I’ve NEVER said a single bad thing about you Walter, I don’t know you and I have never seen any of your work. I trust that Ron & Co. are have good reason to make you a Leader here on the Cow and I respect that. I only wish it was a two-way street. If you’ve really been called all those names for the past 7 months then maybe it’s you that also needs to think before you type? God knows I let my keyboard get the better of me way to often!
I’ve been a leader here on The Cow since 2001 but apparently I’m not allowed to state my case in defense of FCPX – you know, the app that this forum is about?
Lance Bachelder
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[Lance Bachelder] “The problem in this forum is the continual bashing of anyone who says anything good or positive about FCPX. And when someone stands up to them and calls them out on it they’re the bad guy… I only wish it was a two-way street.”
The problem on this forum is the continual bashing of anyone, for any reason, period. We’re here to talk about ideas, not each other. No matter what your position on FCPX is, you should expect your ideas to be debated, but you should feel personally welcome.
[Lance Bachelder] “If you’ve really been called all those names for the past 7 months then maybe it’s you that also needs to think before you type?”
I’m not the first person to question whether they should take offense at something that you’ve written here. Even if you mean it in good fun, it’s not coming across that way at all. This is a water cooler, not a bar.
When numerous others around you are offended at what you say, maybe you should take your own advice about thinking before typing, rather than blaming the offended.
I’m not interested in being told in polarizing and oversimplified terms what my own opinion of the software is. I don’t hate FCPX, and I don’t want to see it fail — nor does anyone else you’ve addressed in this thread.
I’m also not interested in an extended and personal back-and-forth. We’re here to discuss FCPX, right? Let’s do that.
[Lance Bachelder] “I’ve been a leader here on The Cow since 2001 but apparently I’m not allowed to state my case in defense of FCPX – you know, the app that this forum is about?”
On the contrary, I am very, very interested in your defense of FCPX — so let’s hear it!
What makes this forum so interesting to me are the diverse workflows represented. No one else here is doing feature work with FCPX (that I’m aware of), so I am sincerely interested in hearing what the ups and downs are like, what things you can’t imagine editing without, and how you’re working through any problems you encounter.
You’ve changed your mind about FCPX since you started using it, and your work is likely both exploiting FCPX’s strengths (things like metadata and auditions) and exposing you to its weaknesses (project bloat and slowness, interchange difficulties).
We all keep coming back here specifically for the interaction around varied perspectives like yours.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events -
[Walter Soyka] “The problem on this forum is the continual bashing of anyone, for any reason, period. We’re here to talk about ideas, not each other. No matter what your position on FCPX is, you should expect your ideas to be debated, but you should feel personally welcome.
“Absolutely correct!
[Walter Soyka] “What makes this forum so interesting to me are the diverse workflows represented. No one else here is doing feature work with FCPX (that I’m aware of)”
Actually I’m cutting a feature on it at the moment!
Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
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Lol check out the above thread about the PC Mag article – perfect example… can you feel the love tonight?…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California
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