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Philip Bloom Asks Seven Editors to Share Their FCP X Experiences
Jari Innanen replied 14 years, 2 months ago 20 Members · 68 Replies
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Craig Seeman
February 10, 2012 at 3:14 am[David Roth Weiss] “I’ve always hated the idea of paying to beta test”
[David Roth Weiss] “In any case, I was joking with you today, but do I think we’re essentially in agreement. :)”Rock Paper Scissors, Alpha beats Beta ;->
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Chris Harlan
February 10, 2012 at 3:44 am[David Roth Weiss] “[Craig Seeman] “BTW as much as I like FCPX I think you’re being kind by calling it beta. In my early posts I said that I liked it but it seemed more like alpha. Alpha in that it wasn’t feature complete. Beta is at the point one is testing complete features for release. I was a little tongue in check about that but, as far as “the market” is concerned, 10.0.3 probably comes closer to meeting people’s expectations of a feature complete 1.0 app.”
I said that same thing back in June and you disagreed. :)”
We’ve all grown a lot since then. Or is groaned a lot?
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Jack James
February 10, 2012 at 9:30 amI think you hit the nail with the larger problem here. Ultimately this is about Apple telling their users how to work instead of the other way round.
Prior to X, every iteration of Final Cut Pro was about helping editors to improve their workflow in some way. No-one knew in advance what the next version would be like, because that’s Apple’s way. But it didn’t really matter, because the improvements where usually for the best.
Then with X, you can imagine the meeting at Apple HQ: “We need to make editing more sexy, more ipod-like”. And in usual Apple fashion, they went about making a lot of changes behind closed doors, and then being horrified when their users tried to point out that maybe editors know a bit more about what makes good editing software than Apple. This isn’t the same as iPhoto, where it’s kind of OK for Apple to tell me what’s best in terms of managing my photos. But for Apple to decree that “tape is dead in the editing world”? Good grief, I can only imagine the severe thrashing they’d get if they tried to “revolutionise” another industry like the medical industry.I found the entire thing very distasteful and haven’t given X a look-in since it launched. For the most part, I like the care and detail that goes into Apple’s products, but FCPX is born of arrogance, not consideration.
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Steve Connor
February 10, 2012 at 9:48 am[Jack James] “I found the entire thing very distasteful and haven’t given X a look-in since it launched. For the most part, I like the care and detail that goes into Apple’s products, but FCPX is born of arrogance, not consideration.
“I’m glad Apple tried something different with FCPX, I know they bungled the release in almost every way possible, but at least they have tried to push the boundaries. PPro is pretty much what FCP8 would have been had Apple continued down that road anyway so you can always use that if you don’t like the change.
Or if you want even more continuity go Avid.
Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
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Jack James
February 10, 2012 at 10:05 amDon’t get me wrong: I’m all for innovation. But when you’re talking about people’s expertise and livelihood, it should be an additive process, not a rebellious one.
There’s a line in the book “Almost Perfect” (which documents the rise and fall of Wordperfect Inc.) about how they realised what a mistake it was to remove functionality from software.
I think that’s what hurt the FCPX debacle a lot. The magnetic timeline, the keywording, the publish to ireport, all of that could have been _added_ to FCP, along with the ability to disable (or ignore) those features. I don’t think there would have been the uproar. What happened though was they got added, and a whole lot of stuff got removed. My understanding is that some of them have slowly been introduced, but I think there’s a lack of confidence now. What if in FCP11 Apple remove the ability to export to file? Or decide that trimming is too 1980s and remove it?
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Jari Innanen
February 10, 2012 at 8:04 pm[Walter Soyka] “What makes this forum so interesting to me are the diverse workflows represented. No one else here is doing feature work with FCPX (that I’m aware of)”
I am cutting a feature with FCPX and loving it.
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Simon Ubsdell
February 10, 2012 at 8:25 pm[Jari Innanen] “I am cutting a feature with FCPX and loving it.”
How do you plan to get your audio out for finishing?
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Jari Innanen
February 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “How do you plan to get your audio out for finishing?
“I keep my fingers crossed!
I just finished a documentary and went the Xto7 route. Actually I’m waiting an answer from Greg, since the latest update broke something, but I sure we can figure it out. It was all 25fps.The feature I’m on now is a DSLR one (23.976 fps), so after I got it finished I hope there is an easier way.
I’m a positive person.Apple Certified Associate, FCP X
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