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  • Particle Illusion Problem

    Posted by Joao Souza on February 25, 2015 at 6:16 am

    There are some emitters like fire with smoke, it doesn’t matter what I do it always looks crap when I import it to Vegas, smoke looks really dark and like a solid spot and not like smoke with soft edges that blend with the background image or video.
    I’m “save output” PNG file, save alpha and remove black bg.
    While playing on a background image, it looks perfect but when I import it to Vegas(without that background) and put over the same background it looks the way I explained above.
    How to fix that?
    Thanks.

    We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

    Graham Bernard replied 11 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Graham Bernard

    February 25, 2015 at 6:40 am

    I save to AVI. That works for me. Why PNG?

    G

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  • Graham Bernard

    February 25, 2015 at 8:25 am

    Here are my “typical” settings:-

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  • Joao Souza

    February 25, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Because I want no background and everybody I know who works with PI told me PNG would give me the best results, are they wrong?
    BTW when I try to save to AVI like you, that output options box doesn’t let me change anything, all settings are locked, is there a way to unlock them?

    We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

  • Graham Bernard

    February 25, 2015 at 9:01 am

    Are they wrong? – I wouldn’t say that, but you end up with a collection of stills. I couldn’t work like that. From your “response”, it would appear you aren’t aware that PNG isn’t the only Render-out option that keeps the ALPHA channel?

    And to quality, I’m getting 1920×1080.

    Cheers

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
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  • Joao Souza

    February 25, 2015 at 9:15 am

    Read my reply again = “BTW when I try to save to AVI like you, that output options box doesn’t let me change anything, all settings are locked, is there a way to unlock them?”

    If I try to save to AVI, I can’t check save alpha channel box or any other box, they’re all locked.

    We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

  • Joao Souza

    February 25, 2015 at 9:38 am

    As AVI render settings are locked, I tried something different,as I couldn’t choose save alpha channel, I exported with black background and in Vegas I changed channel composite mode to screen, it worked.
    Why the hell AVI output settings are locked?

    We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

  • Graham Bernard

    February 25, 2015 at 10:16 am

    [Joao Souza] “Why the hell AVI output settings are locked?”

    You need an AVI CODEC option that WILL support ALPHA and then render the ALPHA Channel.

    Cheers

    Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge

  • Joao Souza

    February 25, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Please tell me one.
    I installed Lagarith but even when choosing it still avi options are locked.
    I installed Huffyuv too but still settings are locked, choosing codec is a screen after AVI output settings so it’s locked before I choose any codec so I can’t go to the second screen and choose a codec then return to the output options and see if settings are unlocked.
    Weird LOL

    We have so much time and so little to do! / Willy Wonka

  • Bob Peterson

    February 25, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    What software are you using to separate the smoke from the background? My suspicion is that your separation is not as good as you think it is. The imperfections are hidden by the black background. You are probably seeing the true selection in Vegas. It probably does not look as good because the original black background is no longer present.

  • John Rofrano

    February 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    [Joao Souza] “While playing on a background image, it looks perfect but when I import it to Vegas(without that background) and put over the same background it looks the way I explained above. “

    What did you set the Alpha Channel to on the Event on the Timeline? If you used Straight (unmated), try Pre-multiplied (Black).

    ~jr

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