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  • Panasonic + JVC + Cannon + FCP = Not good?

    Posted by Vincent Strader on March 21, 2008 at 12:05 am

    I posted this in the JVC forum since it dealt with a JVC deck and camera mainly. But since I want to buy my own FCP system I want to know what you all think.

    At work I recorded some video with a Cannon GL2.

    I used a Panasonic AY-DVM63AMQ tape.

    I captured some footage to FCP 4.5 with a JVC DR-HD50 deck.

    The deck was set to DV

    There was digital square pixelation all in the video, audio drop out really bad also.

    So out of curiosity I took the GL2 and captured the footage into my FCP from the camera since it was the original recording device.

    It captured beautifully

    Later on that same tape I used a JVC HDV GY-HD110 and tried to use the same deck to capture the footage.

    This time it captured perfectly.

    I concluded that there must have been some sort of codec fight between one of the 3 things I used for the first recording.

    Either Panasonic does not jive with Cannon and JVC, or one of the other companies don’t gel well with the other.

    Did I conclude correctly?

    This makes me think that I really need to ask around before buying my own camera before I buy an Apple/FCP system.

    Do JVC and APPLE not get along well? Or was it just my mixing of all the different company elements that was the problem?

    Is there a list on the Apple site that suggests best cameras and decks to use with FCP systems?

    Thanks,
    Vinnie

    Matthias Halibrand replied 18 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Matthias Halibrand

    March 21, 2008 at 12:21 am

    You sometimes get problems with different “drives” (the one in the cam and the one in the deck) because they are not serviced properly. Especially the cams wear out and write the track a little off.
    This concludes in a bad read from another drive.
    I noticed this on about 10 cameras already, which are private ones and don’t get serviced regularly.
    You can’t use their tapes on any other device than the cam itself.
    It doesn’t have anything to do with FCP, imho.

    Regards,

    Matzehali

  • Adam Smith

    March 21, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Could your first deck have a head load?

    I’d check that, or like Matthias said, it could just be the deck is out of alignment. Sometimes I really miss that old Tracking adjustment…


    Video Photographer / Avid Editor / Final Cut Neophyte

  • Vincent Strader

    March 21, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Thanks for the responses and suggestions. I’m not sure if it’s a problem with the deck.

    The video captures just fine when I capture it off a tape that was used in the JVC camera we have.

    At rare times I’m in situations when I have to use the GL2 or GL1 we have here. It only happens when I use those cameras.

    It always happens at rare times long enough apart for me to forget, then I remember . . OH YEAH, capture Cannon footage from the camera and it works . .

    I just wondered if when I get my own stuff if I need to not get a Cannon camera if I’m going to get JVC decks.

    What brand decks do you all use?

  • Adam Smith

    March 21, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Just to rule out alignment issues, I’d try recording something in each camera and then swap those tapes around in each other camera or deck and see exactly who plays nicely with who.

    If you notice a pattern or definitive culprit you know who to get serviced.

    Of course it could just be finicky gear, but I’d think DV should be the same across them all.

    Do you plan to use HDV in the future? I know JVC HDV is incompatible with Cannon/Panny, and not sure if the latter two will cooperate or not.


    Video Photographer / Avid Editor / Final Cut Neophyte

  • Matthias Halibrand

    March 21, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    For DV here we use Sony and JVC.
    There is one thing I can tell you for sure. Never use Sony-Tapes inside the 2/3rd JVC-Cams. This will lead to dropouts and a bad (to be serviced) videohead very soon. Other than that, I never had any problems with mixing tapes and brands of decks and cams.
    Most of the guys here really dig the JVC-Tapes, but I for my part really like the silver TDK-Tapes (don’t know if they are available everywhere) which are cheap and I never had a single problem.

    Regards,

    Matthias

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