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Palpable disappointment
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[Jeremy Garchow] “generation loss is nothing more than recycled resonance”
mmm. indeed that.
also – I’ll just say it – I found it weirdly fascinating – we know, god I please think I’m going to be right here, but without compound quantization errors, the audio retains aesthetic qualities far longer?
but i’ve got to say this for the combined video MP4 stuff – there is an inherent aesthetic to the block breakdown in video. I rather dig it. It never goes anywhere bad. As someone who has done some extreme experiments. video encoding stays kind of artistic all the way to the end in my experience. having done L frame breakthroughs, he said fancily. There is an aesthetic to extreme video breakdown.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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jesus apologies bill. it appears that will never end. although as a thing – davies is a nice vo run off verbally. it ends however.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Bill Davis] “and THAT certainly won’t take much time, will it?”
No.
When the first AppleTV came out, it was shipped directly to me from China via UPS.
From the time of ordering to time of delivery, it was 1.5 days.
Shipping is not the concern.
You have it right, it’s the supply chain and availability of all the necessary parts to assemble the new MacPro that may hold it back.
So far, they are on schedule as far as we know.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “also – I’ll just say it – I found it weirdly fascinating – we know, god I please think I’m going to be right here, but without compound quantization errors, the audio retains aesthetic qualities far longer? “
The litmus test would be to take a ProRes file and reencode it 1000 times. At some point, the source has to be taken in to consideration.
If you use the video test I linked as a reference, even the fifth time, you can start to hear audio anomalies.
It’s like back in the day when cell phones switched from all analog transmission to all digital.
Even though analog signal were “weaker” the signal was all still there, albeit reduced which caused some less comprehensive distortion.
Digital signals were wither on or off and caused much more disruptive signal comprehension and distortion.
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[Neil Goodman] “We get it, you have a hard on for FCPX and Apple can do no wrong, all those that oppose are idiots. Anything else?”
I think you forgot that he works for Showtime on their pilots doing super important top-secret stuff.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “The litmus test would be to take a ProRes file and reencode it 1000 times.”
Challenge accepted!
Does anybody have a donor ProRes source that I can subject to this test and publish here when finished?
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I have lots of source.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “We’re all franz bieberkopf.”
Aindreas,
Thanks for your garlands – the flattery brought me more than smile.
At its best, this forum can be very good …
Franz.
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Well Jeremy, it’s not the concern for the end user. But that’s just one part of the “new product puzzle.”
If you want to go into the Apple store and your local Best Buy and kick the tires – apple has to distribute stock to those retailers. How many retailers in, say Chicago, need to be shipped units? Likely the MacPro R2DX units required just to stock up for general retail sales for just one major city numbers in the thousands.
And that’s as true in Rome and Sao Paulo as it is in Chicago.
And from my work with retailers, i can say with confidence that this also means the retailers where this new product is landing have to allow for back stock storage space, processes for repair and returns, and even re-work store planograms to allow shelf and display space. None of this is unusual or even complicated, but it all takes some time. And with Apple’s tastes for keeping producer roll-outs “confidential” TIL they break, right now they have to manage this in a holiday shopping environment where their stores are in massive “all hands on deck” mode.
My suspicion is that we’ll see the announcement and on-line BTO sales go live in Dec. But that new Mac Pros in the retail system not until after the first of the year.
But I could be wrong.
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I hear you, but logistics still isn’t the crutch. Getting enough parts are the crutch. If there were enough parts early enough, logistics wouldn’t slow it down much.
If you are a retailer, you already have a returns/service infrastructure setup. You need one or two MacPros for your store if you decide to display them. You break those off a palette of what, 50 MacPros? 100? These aren’t the 40 pound beasts of yesterday. They are smaller than an iMac (albeit not as flat).
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