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  • Pac Subtitles in Final Cut Pro

    Posted by Kristian Fjord on January 16, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Hi all.

    I have a question regarding subtitles in Final Cut Pro

    I am currently working with a project and we have an external compagny to make subtitles for the project.

    The project is going to be made available in 7 different languages and what they do, is sending me a .pac file for each of the 7 languages.

    Earlier I have used Belle Nuit subtitler to import the .pac file and then export targa images from Belle Nuit, and then importing thoose targa files into Final Cut Pro.

    It’s very time consuming seeing that the movie is around 20 minutes long, and I have 7 video layers containing hundres of targa images.

    I see the option for importing some kind of XML subtitle for FCP, but I don’t know how to convert my original .pac file to a file that is recognized by FCP.

    The main issue is that this external compagny have made very detailed information in the .pac files, with timecodes for when each subtitle is supposed to be displayed in the movie along with the length of each subtitle.

    It is therefor very important for me to know if there is a way to convert this .pac file (with all TC data) into a file that can be imported into FCP, and therby pasting all subtitles on a video track, with the correct length and duration.

    I really hope that someone can help me on this, because the targa way, is kind of like starting from scratch without me using the timecode data that the .pac file contains, and I’m manually correcting the length of each targa image. That can be a bit hard with languages you have no idea on how to speak or write 😀

    It would also be great if some of you have experience with using subtitles in general in FCP, because another option could be that the external compagny can send me another file instead of a .pac file, and thereby avoiding the converting to a FCP recognizeable file.

    Thx in advance

    Srimonti Karmakar replied 14 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Bouke Vahl

    January 16, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    VideoToolshed to the rescue!
    Download Subbits from my site.
    Install the text plugin that comes with it. This is the free part 🙂

    Before you buy it, run it and try. (the demo is identical to the paid product, with the exception that you are limited to 8 titles on export.)

    Subbits can read PAC files, and it can translate them to FCP XML. You end up with EDITABLE titles in FCP.

    There is a little trick to get it working, you first have to make a template in FCP using the included text generator. (this defines the look of all your subs)

    If you run into any problem, do not hesitate to contact me.

    Bouke

    http://www.videoToolShed.com
    smart tools for video pro’s

  • Kristian Fjord

    January 19, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Hey Bouke.

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll try out the demo on monday.

    Have a nice weekend 😀

    Kristian

  • Frank Lewis

    March 26, 2008 at 7:18 am

    Hello,

    I’d like to know if .PAC or .890 files can be imported into
    FCP without conversion. If not, which is the easiest, rather
    the simplest way to import into FCP.

    Thank you.

    ~Frank

  • Bouke Vahl

    March 26, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Frank,
    Pac and 890 are not public, the formats are owned by Screen and Cavena.
    However, i’ve reversed engineerd the .Pac format.
    And, i’ve made XML support for FCP as well, so this is what you need:
    https://www.videotoolshed.com/?page=products&pID=12

    Don’t hesitate to ask any questions about it.

    Bouke

    http://www.videoToolShed.com
    smart tools for video pro’s

  • Frank Lewis

    March 27, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Hello Bouke!

    Sincere thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I do have another query for you and I hope you can help me out on this.

    I have been given .PAC files with the time code and other attributes. The glitch is that the subtitles are in the Arabic font. When I tried to import the .PAC files through the demo version of Subbits, the characters appeared funny. They were half Greek and half Eastern European characters and some special characters. How can I address this issue? Is it possible for me to view the subtitles in Arabic through Subbits? If I were to export them (as it is)into FCP XML will they appear in Arabic on the FCP, which is the output machine as I neet to have the subtitles burnt on the digi.

    Also if I have subtitles in plain text format with the Timecode can I import them into Subbits and export it as XML?

    Lookign forward to your reply.

    Thank you,
    Frank

  • Lawrence Vishnu

    July 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    We would also like a solution same as above.
    Email info @ media-movers.com

  • Sutharsan Bala

    August 29, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Hi!

    I have a movie and the company that’s going to make the DVD is asking for .Pac (and/or) .890 files along with the movie. Is it possible to export to these formats using your program? (Subbits). Will upgrades etc. be free with this program later? Are you still developing it?

    Best,

    -n0c-

    “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” – A. Einstein

  • Bouke Vahl

    August 29, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    This is a very old thread.
    Meanwhile Subbits is Unicode capable.
    For that i had to remove the PAC and EBU STL export.
    (Spruce / dvd SP STL is still there)
    And yes, i am still developing it, and yes, updates are free.
    PAC and EBU STL will be there again in the future, but no guarantees when that will be.

    BUT, as mentioned before, PAC is a format that comes in many flavours, and is not without risk.
    I’m more than willing to sell you an old copy with Pac support, but i cannot give any support on that, so it is not a wise idea…

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pro’s

  • Joost Pelicula

    November 3, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    I have a question regarding the reverse order.
    I made a documentary (on ADHD) in Dutch and in Final Cut Pro I made a video-layer containing the English subtitles (in Text outline). I found a publisher and he is asking me for subtitles in the .pac format. Is there a way to make this ocnversion from FCP to pac?

  • Bouke Vahl

    November 16, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    VERY late reply, but i see this thread is still found by some people…

    Latest versions of Subbits have Pac Import and Export in almost all languages, including Arabic / Chinese / Japanese.

    hth,

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pros

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