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  • P2 Issues – Digital Dropout (REDUX)

    Posted by Michael Morabe on January 26, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Hey guys, I’ve done A LOT of research through the forums and numerous posts about digital dropouts from Panasonic readers and now we’ve finally had the problem more lately.

    We had recently switched over to FCP 7 in lieu of X being retarded and since, we’ve had problems importing footage from Log and Transfer and also P2CMS > Raylight.

    We all run Mac Pro’s, 8-core, 64-bit, Snow Leopard, and we don’t daisy chain the capture reader. On a recent capture today, I used our AJ-PCD20 to bring in 4-8 minute clips to edit, and noticed dropout in more than a few spots. I decided to make the edits before recapturing with my HVX200A, and to no avail, still dropout. I’m now attempting to use P2CMS (with Compare on) with my HVX200A and use Raylight to convert the .mxf’s which is what I’ve usually been doing to see if the problem is consistent.

    Has anyone found a FOOL PROOF way to bring in this footage without any problems? We are going to be doing live webcasts and need to be able to offload the P2 footage live and hotswapping the cards soon and we REALLY need to figure out this problem!

    THANKS!

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

    Adam Smith replied 14 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Can you post a pic of this dropout? OH, and does it always occur in the same spot? Or does it occur randomly? If it happens on the same spot, then it might have been recorded with the dropout.

    If the dropout is like colorful square boxes scattered evenly on the screen, that is one indication of a dirty P2 card or P2 card connection.

    Shane
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  • Michael Morabe

    January 26, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    It’s definitely not a bad P2 card since the footage on the card itself is clean as a whistle. It’s something going on during the Log and Transfer process and/or P2CMS/Raylight conversion. Attached is what we get…

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Hmmm…SO it happens when you log and transfer, or use Raylight. Odd.

    Sorry, no pic came through.

    Shane
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  • Michael Morabe

    January 26, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Yeah, it rarely happens in P2CMS/Raylight, but between card transfer to FCP, the problem starts. I’ll try attaching this again.

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    YOIKS that is bad. FCP only? Do you have another machine with FCP to try this on?

    Shane
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  • Michael Morabe

    January 26, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    This happens on all machines in the studio =/ It doesn’t seem to be a “reader” issue, but possibly a software issue in FCP7?

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    So you can see these fine with P2CMS, but FCP causes this junk? Never seen that as an issue with FCP. You say that you see this with Raylight too?

    Do you happen to have Adobe Premiere? Another option for looking at these files.

    Shane
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  • Michael Morabe

    January 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    I’ll check APP. It’s so much easier to use L&T, even though we’re not preserving the real RAW files =/ Was hoping someone found a fix to this.

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    [Michael Morabe] “It’s so much easier to use L&T, even though we’re not preserving the real RAW files”

    Actually, you are. All FCP does is wrap the MXF files into Quicktime wrappers. No re-encoding is done with DVCPRO HD. Which is why this is odd. Only adding a wrapper and it looks like this.

    Shane
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  • Michael Morabe

    January 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Ah great to hear that from you Shane. Can you think of anything that could possibly be causing this during L&T? I tried plugging the P2 Reader into a surge protector to see if that helped, and still had issues.

    I opened up the same file in APP and this is what I got:

    FCP 7 Editor, Gaffer, Grip, Camera man…Swiss Army Knife!

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