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  • P2 files, drive faliures, too much to be coincidence?

    Posted by Aaron Neitz on April 1, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Recently we’ve started transferring 5TB of P2 files into Final Cut. Our primary P2 source is on GRaid-2 1TB drives.

    Of the 5 drives, 4 have critically failed during log and transfer (loud clicking and locking up = bad). And roughly 1/2 to 3/4 of having the whole drive imported. Is there anything about P2 files that heavy log and transferring is causing too much random drive access? Overheating the drives?

    We’re doing this at 2 separate offices, both with power conditioners, climate controlled rooms. Drives fail – that’s part of the game. But this seems odd and we’re flummoxed. GRaid have always been super rugged for us.

    thanks!

    Aaron Neitz replied 18 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Michael Sacci

    April 1, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    There is nothing demanding about transferring P2 footage. It is basically a copying of files with a conversion thrown in.

    Did you purchase all these drives at the same time? Wonder if you got a bunch from a bad lot of drives. I love Panasonic cameras, I coming to grips with the workflow but I would so much rather be shooting on tape. I feel your pain.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 1, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    GRaids did have some issues with their power supplies a while back.

    Jeremy

  • Aaron Neitz

    April 1, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Hmm… maybe too much power going to drive so chipset had to throttle it back? overheating over time?

    they’re a local company so we’re taking the drives to them for examination.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 1, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    [Aaron Neitz] “Hmm… maybe too much power going to drive so chipset had to throttle it back? overheating over time? “

    Yeah, I don’t really know. A graphics cohort of mine had his fail a long while back. He sent it in, they fixed it and has been fine ever since.

    Jeremy

  • Mark Maness

    April 1, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    Aaron,

    I would suggest that you look into BluRay as a backup medium. The major issue that I have with P2 is the exact issue that you are seeing. Hard drive fail all of the time. BluRay is still unproven but it has to be much better than hard drives.

    I, too, have heard that G-RAIDs have this issue. You might ought to look at some other drive system that will supplement your needs, like any of the ads on the COW. We have a little bigger budget so we invested in a Facilis TerraBlock two years ago with absolutely no issues at all. But there are plenty of RAID systems available. Just do some asking around and find the right setup for you. Personally speaking… I’d stay away from G-RAIDs.

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  • Aaron Neitz

    April 1, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Yeah it’s a budget thing. We’ve got a massive Xsan and some RAID3 G-Speeds in studio… but this project is a little indie.

    It’s too bad, we’ve had GTech in the studio for 3 years with stellar performance. They must be trying to save some scheckles and are buying from different suppliers. It happened with Lacie too: years of solid performance, then several critical failures so we gave up.

    Just goes to show – in the age of massive amounts of data, it’s uber critical to have safety systems in place.

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