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outputting EX! time line to play on 50″ plasma
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[Greg Ball] “And how would I make a blueray DVD anyway?”
Toast[Greg Ball] “1. Reliability – now you ned to trust a client’s laptops. Not all laptops will play a large file.”
And not all DVD players do upscaling and those that do may do a bad job of it.[Greg Ball] “2. If they were using a laptop, what kind of file would they need? .h264?
3. Can a .h264 loop? “H.264 would probably be best since you can do a good file size efficient compression that any recent laptop can play.
Quicktime/View/Loop (Command + L).Ultimately ANY thing you create is going to depend on the client’s software and hardware and issues can happen with poor quality or old DVD players, computers, etc.
True your more likely to find DVD players out there than other playback devices but if I were in sales I’d certainly make the effort to bring or rent the playback device of MY CHOICE to present my product in the best light. Again the player (of any kind) sitting in the room one walks into may be horrid and it’ll make YOUR PRODUCT look bad.
If an A/V company has a 50″ Plasma you’d think they’d give the client any number of HD playback options. You can get a basic name brand Blu-ray player for $200 now.
https://electronics.pricegrabber.com/blu-ray-hd-dvd-players/p/2065/st=sort/sortby=priceA
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Have you created a Blue ray DVD from FCP an ex1 timeline to toast? If so what settings did you use?
What Blue ray burner did you use?
I can’t expect a main client to instruct each of their sales team to buy a blue ray player. Sometimes they may just leave a DVD with their own client. I’ve already given them WMV files to play off their laptops. This DVD is just to show info about their company. It’s not product specific.
This client is already ticked off by not being able to show good quality at their trade show. They are threatening to use another video company to solve the problem. I don’t think telling them to but additional equipment for each member of their sales force is going to help our relationship.
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I’m telling you, Greg, the WD player is the answer. I’ve personally used it to continuously loop HD programs all day long without a hiccup. It’s cheap, and there are no potential compatibility problems as there might be with a Blu-Ray player. That being said, the other area over which you may have no control is how the A/V people at the venue hook-up the equipment. Fortunately, at my last corporate event , I was able to check out the installation before our DVD was shown to a large important group of corporate heads. The A/V crew at the hotel, had hooked up the DVD player to a large plasma monitor using a composite video cable, the picture settings on the monitor were set to the wrong aspect ratio, and zoomed-in so that there were jaggies all over the place. On top of that, they used an ancient DVD player that kept hanging-up at a particular spot in the program. Had I not been able to check it out ahead of time, that’s the way it would have been shown, and I would have been blamed.
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Chris, what kind of file are you using on your WD player? This may solve the trade show problem as the client could bring this unit with the to different shows. This doesn’t solve the multiple uses they have.
Your experience with an AV company sounds familiar. The same thing happened with this AV company. They tried playing my SD DVD on a 50 ” plasma with composite cables, and probably zoomed. Then the client complained about pixelation and type being cut off and jagged.
Component isn’t much better but it’s acceptable. However when the AV company plays test DVDs from Blockbuster and they look and says the problem is MY DVD, the client believes them.
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I have had the best result with MPEG-2 Transport Stream, encoded in Compressor.
Put the file on a USB pocket drive which plugs into the WD Player. The player connects to the monitor with an HDMI cable, and the interface is easy to negotiate. I would suggest demonstrating it for your client first, so that you a sure they know how to operate it, and know what it is supposed to look like. One word of caution: Make sure they do not leave the remote at home. The unit is inoperable without it. I learned that the hard way. -
Incidentally, if you don’t need audio, your XDCAM Quicktimes will play right out of Final Cut, but I haven’t been able to get audio. Only MPEG2 and MPEG4 (H.264) are officially supported in Quicktime.
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Making a blu-ray disc using FCP and Toast 10 couldn’t be easier.
1) Just export your sequence using the Quicktime codec of your choice (I would recommend either ProRes or ProRes HQ)
2) Launch Toast and select Video>Blu-ray Video
3) Drag the exported seq into the Toast window
4) Burn the discNOTE: You don’t need a blu-ray burner or blu-ray media to make blu-ray discs. No kidding. Just use a regular DVD burner and a DVD-R and you can burn 20-30 minutes of video on to the disc. You will need a blu-ray player though to view it.
https://www.macvideo.tv/dvd-authoring/features/index.cfm?articleId=112361&pagType=samecat
Sony EX3, Letus Ultimate, Nikon lenses, Sachtler tripod
20 years as a videographer/editor – HD and 35mm adaptor newbie
Experienced with Apple products, Final Cut Studio, Adobe Creative Suite, MOTU Digital Performer, Flip4Mac, etc… -
Just don’t be surprised if your client’s Blu-Ray player will not play the disc. For instance, my Samsung 1400 will play BD-R discs that I have burned in Toast, but will not play Blu-Ray content that has been burned to DVD-Rs.
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Chris has a point. This is the same scenario we had back when DVD-R’s came out. Just got to learn to deal with it. Or go with a media player like the Western Digital box.
Sony EX3, Letus Ultimate, Nikon lenses, Sachtler tripod
20 years as a videographer/editor – HD and 35mm adaptor newbie
Experienced with Apple products, Final Cut Studio, Adobe Creative Suite, MOTU Digital Performer, Flip4Mac, etc… -
We are outputting Blu-ray for clients for projection using encore. I put myself in the budget for set up with our blu-ray player when it’s local. We almost always have problems with the AV guys. Then after the event we deliver the SD DVD’s with the explanation that they won’t look as good as the HD version. So far this has worked for us. It’s a lot of hand holding. We have made Blu-ray dvd’s for trade shows that looped for days without any problem. However I made them buy or use the same Sony Blu-ray player we have.
Dajen Productions, Santa Barbara, CA
MacPro Two 2.8GHz Quad Core – AJA Kona LHe
FCP 6.0.4 OS X 10.5.5 QT 7.5.5
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