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  • Output to ProRes422 using Premiere Pro CS5 on a PC

    Posted by Allan Mackenzie on April 1, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Hi Guys,

    I’ve been using premiere pro for several years on a PC windows based operating system and has not been a problem when supplying footage for broadcast and others over the years. However I have discovered a flaw in my business, Getty Images has just signed me on to supply aerial stock footage and require all the files to be outputted to Apple ProRes 422. (But I’m a PC guy): I did ask Getty surely I’m not the only pro creative contributor in the world on PC? or am I? I just grew up and built my video production on PC based operating systems and never had an issue with the creative, quality and productivity outcomes until now, my cliental base has been very happy with the work produced.

    My question is, is there anyway I can output to 422 without racing out and buying an Apple right now? or is that the only solution if I’m going to continue to supply footage for broadcast on a professional basis giving the rise of the 422 codec over the past couple of years?

    Matthew Galvin replied 11 years, 5 months ago 16 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Petros Kolyvas

    April 2, 2012 at 2:11 am

    I don’t believe there’s any ability to export to ProRes on PC short of that PC being built to run OS X.

    If you have to “go Apple,” an old, used, intel mac ($cheap) with Snow Leopard and purchasing Compressor from the app stop ($49) could suffice depending on how much footage you have an how quickly (or slowly) you need it converted (but I do mean slowly in some cases.)

    Then there’s the possibility you already use or have access to a recording device that supports ProRes and you just play-out to it? This probably isn’t ideal, but it could work.


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  • Allan Mackenzie

    April 2, 2012 at 4:06 am

    Thanks Petros,

    I appreciate the feedback seems like the most logical solution in the interim. We are due for computer equipment upgrade in the middle of next year, so we are seriously considering swapping out to Mac hardware or at least introducing one Mac pro system.

    Cheers
    Allan

  • Todd Kopriva

    April 2, 2012 at 7:08 am

    As Petros says, there’s no encoder for ProRes for Windows.

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  • Allan Mackenzie

    April 2, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Thanks Todd! it’s interesting, surely I’m not the only pro that prefers using PC window based operating systems that encounters this issue? or am I truly an island, unique, lol 🙂 I’m guessing the solutions are folks in my position are using the two operating systems in their workflows or editing suites to service the ProRes422 client base.

    It would be interesting to hear from others in my position that have came across this issue and what they did to work around?

    Kind regards
    Allan

  • Gabriel Sanchez

    April 2, 2012 at 9:03 am

    This article could be useful:
    https://www.telestream.net/company/press/2011-03-31.htm

    What they don´t say is if this prores codec will be available or integrated INTO Adobe Media Encoder coding options, but if not i think footage could be exported to a non compressed fortmat and then converted to ProRes with any of the applications of Telestream, Episode Encoder or FlipFactory.

    Regards

  • Tapio Haaja

    April 2, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Yes if you’ve Telestream’s Flipfactory or Episode Engine you can convert to Prores with PC… But neither Flipfactory or Episode Engine isn’t meant to be used on desktops. Those are programs that should run on servers and their target market are broadcast stations and other large facilities and licenses start from 5000$.

    So I also recommend buying cheap Mac and Compressor.

    P.S. If you want to experiment ffmpeg (https://ffmpeg.org/) says they’ve included Prores encoder last fall. So if you’re ready to go to unknown territory and experiment maybe you should try ffmpeg.

    Best
    Tapio Haaja

    On-Air Promotion Producer
    https://avseikkailuja.blogspot.com/

  • Allan Mackenzie

    April 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Thanks Tapio, I appreciate the recommendation, it makes logical sense as the get out of jail card!!

    Cheers
    Allan

  • Jeff Pulera

    April 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Hi Allan,

    The Atomos Ninja offers a realtime capture to ProRes solution. You would need an HDMI output from Premiere, meaning a Black Magic Intensity or Matrox MXO2 I/O device for instance.

    Ninja records direct to ProRes LT, 422, and HQ codecs via HDMI input, using an inexpensive 2.5″ laptop hard drive.

    The only issue you might have is if the files must be delivered with an exact amount of header or something, because you’d be manually starting/stopping the recorder unit. I suppose the recipient of the files could tighten things up on their end perhaps.

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor

  • Tom Daigon

    April 2, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Its a little ironic you are contemplating a switch to Mac. These days old FCP users are switching to PCs in droves due to a general perception that Apple has abandoned the Pro market. I am part of that group.

    Tom Daigon
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  • Dirk Dejonghe

    April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I have succesfully used ffmpeg on a Linux system to render Quicktime Prores files. There is also a ffmpeg version for Windows that would do the job, but it would be strictly command line. There is even a forum right here on Creative Cow to support ffmpeg.

    ffmpeg is open source and works very well once you have mastered the command line.

    http://www.postproduction.be

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