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  • Outlines? WTF

    Posted by Kirk Lauterbach on February 10, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Here is some footage I shot with a 550d and edited in SV12. The footage with more vibrant colors has not been edited, the duller footage was edited using color curves, LAB adjust, and a trial of FBmn software Exposure. I am very very new to editing footage aside from cutting and trimming but I have been playing around with editing the color correction and color curves the last few days trying to get a better understanding of different effects and how to use them. I am trying to experiment more with this type of editing but am not sure which effects are most beneficial or how to use them to get the effects I want.

    In this footage I was trying to lower the highlights on the shirt but ended up just making the whole shot look less saturated. Any recommendations on what effects I should be using?

    Also, notice the dark blue outline around the shirt? I don’t know why that is happening on both the edited and unedited footage. All in all it looks terrible. Any ideas why that is happening?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6HsQcg6q7M&feature=youtu.be

    Nigel O’neill replied 13 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    February 10, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    It is happening because you are new to color correction
    and you need time, patience, practice and watching
    online tutorials to fine tune your editing and color
    correcting skills. The same tools you are using are
    effective and can easily do an excellent job on your footage.
    A word of advise also, highly overexposed (too bright)footage
    cannot be properly corrected, so try to avoid shooting with too
    much light on your subject.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-832-4956

  • Kirk Lauterbach

    February 10, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    Thank you! I really appreciate all of the advice!

    I just realized that the video file looks just as bad as the SV rendered video. I think the problem is also in the way I shot the video. The ISO was set to 200 so im not sure why it looks so grainy but I will continue to play around with ideas.

  • Phil Seymour

    February 10, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    You will find that shooting in bright sunlight is one of the hardest things to do. The latitude of solid state sensors is still behind film, so reflected fill lighting or sometimes lens filters are needed to flatten the lighting. As Steve said with post control the same applies to shooting. And it is always best to get it right in the shooting rather than rely on correcting later.
    Have a look at pictures of movie shoots… note the lighting setups even in outdoor shots. You are not alone with the problem of latitude.

    Windows 7 Pro64, i7 CPU, 16GB RAM, SSD boot drive, GTX 570 Graphics, Vegas Pro 12

  • Kirk Lauterbach

    February 10, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    You guys are very helpful. I really appreciate it!

  • Steve Rhoden

    February 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    Glad to help.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-832-4956

  • Nigel O’neill

    February 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    When shooting outdoors, it is always a good idea to use an ND filter and/or polarising filter. You might need to try a few different angles to get the best result.

    In a shot such as yours, adding a touch of contrast and a bit of colour curves will help take a bit off the edge of the blown out highlights.

    My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 11 (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

  • Kirk Lauterbach

    February 11, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Thank you! I purchased a CPL filter a while back and switch from having it on and off but I am almost always outside. I will keep try to just keep in on more next time Im outside.

    I really appreciate the help!

  • Nigel O’neill

    February 11, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    Probably in your case an ND filter will achieve the best results. Depending on your camera, it may have one built in.

    A CPL is most effective when you can get the light at 90 degrees to the filter. It’s great when shooting through glare off water or when you want to enhance clear blue sky. In your situation an ND1 or ND2 filter will have the most impact. You will need a bit of trial and error experimentation to get it right.

  • Kirk Lauterbach

    February 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    Okay! Thanks!

  • Kirk Lauterbach

    February 11, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Would using a ND filter instead of CPL filter make much of a difference? I have never used one so I have no idea if it is worth spending the money if I already have the CLP.

    BTW I had NO filter on in the video I posted.

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