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OTish: Adobe Release
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Release it when it’s not ready about once a year is obviously the path forward.”
And pay for it whether you can use it or not. Forced software rental is awesome! 😉
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[David Lawrence] ”
It’s definitely more rare in in the case of large, complex applications that have a huge user base (Microsoft Office anyone?). But with smaller developers, big reboots are the norm. Rogue Amoeba for example, just relaunched their excellent Audio Hijack application:”This is what I was wondering.
How many big companies have been slinging software of the same name to consumers for 25 years?
How many companies have even had the chance to blow it up and rebuild due to longevity?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Jeremy “The Churlish Beauty” Garchow is mostly arguing about one feature of one app(the number one requested feature, mind you) that has been talked about since 2011 under the new rules of “release it when it’s ready”.”
The “speed up After Effects?” conversation started January 11, 2014:
https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2014/01/happy-new-year-and-a-question.html
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[Jeremy Garchow] “How many companies have even had the chance to blow it up and rebuild due to longevity?”
You are making the assumption that users want a company to blow up the software and rebuild it. They almost always don’t. Look how many Word users hate, hate, hate the MS ribbon menu concept. Re-imagined software is for new users more than anything else. When you stray too far, you alienate the existing users. The reason is that existing users don’t want to be in a mode of constantly relearning software. They want to use it and have the thought precess of using it move into the background of their mind.
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[Oliver Peters] “You are making the assumption that users want a company to blow up the software and rebuild it. “
Probably not a lot of users would ask for an FCP X style blow up and rebuild, but something along the lines of what it seems the AE team is doing (where the customer facing portions stay consistent but the internal workings get modernized) would presumably be popular with many users. Well, the finished product would be. The growing pains to get there would not.
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[Oliver Peters] “You are making the assumption that users want a company to blow up the software and rebuild it. They almost always don’t. Look how many Word users hate, hate, hate the MS ribbon menu concept. Re-imagined software is for new users more than anything else. When you stray too far, you alienate the existing users. The reason is that existing users don’t want to be in a mode of constantly relearning software. They want to use it and have the thought precess of using it move into the background of their mind.”
This x 1000. ^
A big reboot is highly risky for large vendors with millions of users – again Microsoft comes to mind with Windows 8 for example. A big vendor has to tread a fine line between modernizing code, revamping UI and pissing off users. It’s not easy.
That said, I think the place where these companies tend to fail is with UI. Users could care less about the code under the hood. They just want their software to be bug free and fast. But make the UI confusing or take away important features and the users will howl. (They’ll howl if it’s buggy or slow too).
Adobe is walking the fine line as they gut and rebuild AE’s foundation. they have to modernize without blowing up the huge AE ecosystem that millions of users depend on. No easy feat. I have nothing but the highest respect for the development team pulling this off. It looks like they’re doing a great job.
Just wish Adobe management would start selling software again.
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[Oliver Peters] “Look how many Word users hate, hate, hate the MS ribbon menu concept. Re-imagined software is for new users more than anything else. When you stray too far, you alienate the existing users. The reason is that existing users don’t want to be in a mode of constantly relearning software. They want to use it and have the thought precess of using it move into the background of their mind.”
but isn’t this somewhere else entirely? Adobe are waving you off to use largely unaltered AE software. They’re in the basement with jack hammers. This isn’t a ribbon, it’s the comparative process by which microsoft can deliver keystrokes in real time. Adobe are trying to accelerate the most basic processes of the AE software – they’re not touching the GUI – it feels almost more an OS level refit given the complexity of AE. Word is a word processor. They’ve not been concerned with hitting metal to deliver keystrokes for three decades. Adobe look to have a large building site behind the unaltered GUI of AE. Look at those multiprocessing preferences off line.
It is literally as unsexy as it gets.
It’s not – try and get used to the ribbon – it’s: we’re re-fitting the bakerloo underground line and we look to be finished in october.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Oliver Peters] ”
You are making the assumption that users want a company to blow up the software and rebuild it.”No.
I’m asking what company even has the chance? Andrew asked who has done it, I’m asking who can do it.
Avid is one that could.
Microsoft could. (Microsoft did blow up Excel there for a bit).
Adobe could.
What other entity has consumer software that’s been around 25 years that has millions of users?
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[Walter Soyka] “The “speed up After Effects?” conversation started January 11, 2014:
“That’s the date of the blog post, but it’s not when the ‘conversation’ started.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “That’s the date of the blog post, but it’s not when the ‘conversation’ started.”
The previous conversations about a faster Ae were all about the global performance cache, and that was delivered in 2012. That was no mean feat, but it wasn’t replacing the wings in flight. It was evolutionary, not revolutionary.
The fact that you’re disappointed in this release is exactly why I wonder if this kind of development could realistically be planned under CS.
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