OTish: Adobe Release

[Walter Soyka]

There’s a lot of cool stuff in this release, including (in my opinion) the most important Ae update since CS5 took the application 64-bit.

In this release of Ae, the render thread is separated from the UI thread, which improves interactivity immediately and is the first necessary step toward modernizing the application and getting the improved overall performance that everyone here has rightly criticized Ae for not having.

[Scott Witthaus] “sadly nothing about “fixing” the interfaces….”

Let’s discuss! From https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/81971:

[Scott Witthaus] “Crazy small icons, timeline view feels ancient, please give me a keyboard short cut for in and out points when adding video…the list goes on.”

Personally, I want the icons small. There’s a lot of stuff I want access to all at the same time in Ae, so the bigger the icons are, the more screen real estate they take away from the viewer, the timeline, the ECP, etc.

I don’t know what “timeline feels ancient” means. Can you elaborate?

You can set in and out points for video in the viewer the same way you set in and out points for a layer in the timeline: Alt+[ and Alt+] (Alt plus square brackets).

What’s the rest of the list?

Walter Soyka
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[Jim Wiseman]

Looks pretty ho-hum. Illustrator is faster. My everyday app.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.1, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500, Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD

[Walter Soyka]

[Jim Wiseman] “Looks pretty ho-hum. Illustrator is faster. My everyday app.”

Actually, I do use Ps and Il quite a bit, and I think some of what you see in these apps are the kind of “boring” updates that make a big difference for everyday users, and that require a lot of engineering effort to bring about in a mature application without blowing up everyone’s workflow.

Here’s more detail on what’s in these releases for this forum’s everyday apps:

After Effects:
https://blogs.adobe.com/aftereffects/2015/04/after-effects-cc-spring-2015-update-revealed.html

Premiere Pro:
https://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2015/04/premiere-pro-next-colorful.html
https://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2015/06/premiere-pro-cc-2015.html

Walter Soyka
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[Bill Davis]

Am I correct that regarding Premiere Pro only, this is the delivery of the improvements they announced at NAB? Nothing beyond that? Or am I missing things?

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[Walter Soyka]

[Bill Davis] “Am I correct that regarding Premiere Pro only, this is the delivery of the improvements they announced at NAB? Nothing beyond that? Or am I missing things?”

The first of the Pr links I listed above is about what was announced at NAB. The second link includes new details and features since the NAB preview.

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[Herb Sevush]

I’ve posted a version of this on the PPro forum but I find the 2015 update very underwhelming. The 2 big items are the Lumetri Color Space and the Morph effect. Nothing wrong with the LCS but I already use Colorista and MB Looks and other than the ability to drop in some LUT presets there’s nothing I don’t already have, and much would be missing if I dropped my plug-ins. The Morph effect can be helpful in certain limited situations, but right now I’m having quicktime gamma issues with it (hopefully user error.) What else is there – workplace tab keys that are useless if you have a 2 screen setup, a 2D character animator function that I don’t see me ever even looking at, some small keyboard shortcut revisions and an export function that let’s you trim or expand the length of your sequence – which might be helpful if I were racing to make air, but since I’m not I prefer to adjust my length by adjusting the cut.

PPro has had major revisions in the last few years, so I’m OK with nothing much going on this year, but let’s face it, nothing much is going on.

Herb Sevush
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[Andrew Kimery]

[Herb Sevush] “. Nothing wrong with the LCS but I already use Colorista and MB Looks and other than the ability to drop in some LUT presets there’s nothing I don’t already have,”

How is the performance of LCS compared to Colorista? Colorista has always been a performance hog for me so if LCS can do the same things I usually Colorista for (which is nothing fancy) but with less of a performance hit I’ll probably shelve Colorista again.

[Charlie Austin]

[Herb Sevush] “PPro has had major revisions in the last few years, so I’m OK with nothing much going on this year, but let’s face it, nothing much is going on.”

I have to agree here on all points. And not while wearing my “I Like FCP X way better” hat either. 😉 They fixed at least one bug that could reliably crash the app, so that’s nice, but it’s really pretty much the same old same old. Which is fine. It works.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

What is confusing to me, is the branding. I assume Adobe is still figuring this out.

At first, CC was it and it was going to be a platform and they were getting rid of the “suite” and updates would come fast and frequent. Then CC 2014 introduced seemingly a new version of everything, and CC 2014 installed next to CC without you doing anything, and there was a big wad of two different yet similar apps in the Applications folder.

Now, we have CC 2015 which seems like it should be another new round of stuff, and in the case of Ae, the version went from 13.2 to 13.5, and CC 2015 deletes the CC 2014 apps by default.

It’s weird. And I understand Adobe is working hard on Ae, but the new cache thing is cool and has some good new options, but it’s still very much like a RAM preview. I still can’t play a file back in real time.

[Charlie Austin]

[Jeremy Garchow] “but it’s still very much like a RAM preview. I still can’t play a file back in real time.”

Apple has apparently fixed that for Adobe with Metal in 10.11. I hope they thank them. 🙂

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