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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    hey – just reading your informative thread there – this dude actually does a really solid breakdown of the lumetri panel in an entertaining accent:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3iJwzIeUq4

    He says an interesting thing about colour qualification where he mentions the resolve hue vs hue controller? I don’t know resolve from a hole in the ground but he makes a big point of it – Oliver would know all about you’d reckon. Also when he plays with the shadow highlight stuff and some of the other new stuff – it seems like adobe have had a really long think about what goes into this – the two stages of LUTS and all that – I’m a colorista MB looks kiddie as well, but could see myself using this sometimes. I like lightroom and the panel seems nicely put together as a flow. decent youtube vid on it anyway..

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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  • Herb Sevush

    June 18, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    Thanks, very informative.

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “He says an interesting thing about colour qualification where he mentions the resolve hue vs hue controller?”

    If your familiar with Colorista, he’s talking about the ability to go into the HSL color wheels and pick a color, let’s say blue, and drag it over to another hue, let’s say red, thereby changing all the blue’s to red. With the LCP you can change the intensity of a hue, but you can’t change one hue to another. What’s great about the LCP is you can totally control the range of the hue you want to alter, in the Colorista HSL wheel the hue’s are predetermined and not nearly as flexible. I’m guessing that in a dedicated grading ap like Resolve you get the best of both.

    Herb Sevush
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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 18, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    ok yes. yes yes – I was going to try and reference that off mentioning hue to hue – but I wasn’t completely sure. The resolve implementation I’m utterly unfamiliar with?

    I’m very fond of the ability to cluster the HSL balls together in colorista. I really think it’s magic. Stu Maschwitz did a great breakdown – somewhat giving a lot of the grading game away there recently?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJdTSAiw60s

    I get that resolve is amazing – but there is some stuff in colorista as a mental model for CC that I love. The malleability of those dots in the hue circle – it’s crazy clean given the sophistication of the things you’re doing to the colour space. do like me some colorista. I half think of Maschwitz like the Jamie Oliver of colour correction- he really opposes ornate practice but he’s awfully stringent on good processes.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Tim Wilson

    June 18, 2015 at 10:50 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I half think of Maschwitz like the Jamie Oliver of colour correction- he really opposes ornate practice but he’s awfully stringent on good processes.”

    Full marks for a spot-on simile that doesn’t involve a car.

  • Oliver Peters

    June 18, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I’m guessing that in a dedicated grading ap like Resolve you get the best of both.”

    Yes, you have a lot of flexibility with curves in Resolve. Not only do you have a bunch of options, but you can have multiple point snd adjustments along any single curve line. You also had some of this control in Color.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 18, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    [Dennis Radeke] “For a lot of people this is going to be a great tool that helps them get farther in creating good content via color shaping than previously. It will hopefully be fun and instructive at the same time.

    rather, said the subscriber, still – introducing pretty serious code articles like shadow, highlight and vibrance control seems a better transference of colour sophistication to quick use cases than apple ever managed with their zany square box CC. – zing-

    It’s kind of mad that adobe felt the space to go – do you know what – actually screw it, let’s just do a good lightroom style CC panel for the edit software . That feels almost a definitive outcropping of the off sales ramp engineering latitude. Never mind blowing up half the AE ram preview logic. They’re replacing wings in flight all over the place. Who’d ever risk an annual CS sale with all that zaniness?

    Also who doesn’t actually like the notion of an applied LR chain to video? Staged LUTS for god’s sake.

    If it had ever occurred to them you’d think apple could have pulled something like this from the bones of aperture. But they only unlocked CC from the start of the effects chain this year.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Walter Soyka

    June 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “That feels almost a definitive outcropping of the off sales ramp engineering latitude. Never mind blowing up half the AE ram preview logic. They’re replacing wings in flight all over the place. Who’d ever risk an annual CS sale with all that zaniness? “

    Pretty cool, huh?

    Walter Soyka
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 19, 2015 at 11:44 am

    Yes, Dennis. I do like good surprises.

    I had high hopes for Ae being faster. It’s been teased (yes) for a really long time. People have asked for it for a really long time. That blog post borders on patronization. (What if we did what you want…well we won’t…but we know you want it…and if we did it would be great! Tell us how much you want it. So we hear that’s what you want! We will think about it. Comments closed and deleted). I’m asking you frankly and honestly in an Internet forum, is that an example of open and honest communication to you?

    Mature software is supposed to be difficult, but Adobe has shown there’s ways of handling it.

    I appreciate how hard the work is. I appreciate that it’s hard to do. I appreciate how hard everyone is working. I appreciate you being here.

    I would just like to see it released when it’s ready, like the CC model is supposed to provide. I don’t find this version to be faster if we are being honest and open.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 19, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    yes it is basically. It’s kind of thrilling that they’re tearing AE up a bit. They’ve turned off multiprocessing for a bit! The ram preview has gone barmy! Them getting stuck into seriously messy stuff like the AE architecture is one thing you’d want to see in a membership context. They know everyone wants them to do it, and they’ve got the latitude now to really get into it. I almost don’t care that the current AE rev would be half a building site for a year. I’ll just keep on using cc14.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 19, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    well it had to happen eventually.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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