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  • Bernard Newnham

    May 9, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    Editing in Resolve 15 is much like all the other track based NLEs – though not FCPX of course.

    Coming from – most recently – PPro CC, it took me about 15 minutes to get an edit going. I picked a drama piece shot by a fellow lecturer and some students, with separate sound. R15 has automatic syncing built in, but it didn’t want to work on my boarded rushes so I had to hand sync all the shots. A bit irritating but I expect it will come right. I dragged and dropped the synced clips into a new bin and forgot about the originals.

    After that cutting and trimming was straightforward, though I had to hunt around for the rubber band sound level stuff. I think I could have just used Fairlight, but I’m not familiar with that yet.

    For the uni, there are enormous advantages – it’s just like most of the others, and it’s free, both at the uni and for students at home. No complicated licencing as we have at the moment with PPro.

    At a lesser, nitty gritty, level, the uni version of PPro is distributed from a central point. We use it as a playback system in the studio, but the central version doesn’t have the BM drivers needed for the Decklink card. We have to use a standalone. Oops – licencing, and much fiddling around. Not totally surprisingly, with R15 you just tick the Decklink box.

    I haven’t done much with node based software, but there’s an increasing amount of it around, so familarity with Fusion would give students a baseline for other node type software of whatever type. And of course Color is an industry standard.

    Resolve does of course run on Linux, OSX or Windows, but the uni has hundreds of cheap PCs that are regularly updated….

    Bernie

  • Robin S. kurz

    June 16, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Let me just point out that while this may be a dandy move for Adobe (and their bank account), it’s a really DUMB move for students that are not clear on the concept. Why? Because they don’t grasp that their super-duper-special-deal ENDS abruptly the day they leave school. Oops. What’s that? You can’t access your own work? Your own intellectual property? Why sure you can! Just pay us TEN TIMES what you have been until now! Yay.

    Suddenly not such a great deal, eh?

    Resolve? I doubt it, unless it improves and is adopted A LOT more. Great price tag, sure. Just too bad that you can’t get any video signal IN OR OUT without buying… you got it… BMD hardware. Oops. Not so cheap after all. And honestly… how long can BMD hold that whole model? Who knows? But I find it rather ridiculous when I hear people question FCP’s potential demise when I look at companies such as BMD and Avid and where they stand as a whole.

    In contrast: Apple. They have educational licenses for a measly $199 (get discounted iTunes cards and it’s even less).That gets you Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X, Motion, Compressor and MainStage. And guess what? FOR LIFE. Absolutely nothing changes once you leave school. Except maybe having to buy a Mac, which the schools will generally already have had anyway.

    Guess what my students are opting for?

    But to each his own, right? The next few years should be interesting as far as all this goes.

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  • Greg Janza

    June 16, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    [Robin S. Kurz] “Resolve? I doubt it, unless it improves and is adopted A LOT more.”

    This sure sounds like a comment from someone who hasn’t tried it out. Resolve 15 is a fantastic piece of software that may not be highly adopted yet but the future of that program is very bright. Editor, color, vfx and sound editor all in one and basically free. I think people need to give Resolve a try before making grand statements against it.

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  • David Mathis

    June 16, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    I can’t believe the amount of disparaging remarks I have seen on Facebook including a group that I am an admin in. One troll really did not like Adobe After Effects for whatever reason. He said it needed to be burned. Sometimes it feels like certain posts in here are borderline on being of that mentality. Another genius was pretty nuch saying Final Cut Pro X was for rich people. Does it really matter what software someone uses? Granted there is some bias in all of us but pissing on others with childish insults is so not cool. I may not use Premiere Pro but at the same time I am not going to troll someone who enjoys working with it. Why can’t we stop with the “it’s garbage” posts? Keep the disagreements civil.

  • Bernard Newnham

    June 17, 2018 at 9:42 am

    [Robin S. Kurz] “Resolve? I doubt it, unless it improves and is adopted A LOT more. Great price tag, sure. Just too bad that you can’t get any video signal IN OR OUT without buying… you got it… BMD hardware. Oops. Not so cheap after all.”

    Given that a BlackMagic Intensity Pro 4k costs £165.98 here in the UK, it would seem to be rather cheaper than subscribing to Adobe. Runs on PC or Mac.

    Bernie

  • Steve Connor

    June 17, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    [Bernard Newnham] “[Robin S. Kurz] “Resolve? I doubt it, unless it improves and is adopted A LOT more. Great price tag, sure. Just too bad that you can’t get any video signal IN OR OUT without buying… you got it… BMD hardware. Oops. Not so cheap after all.”

    Given that a BlackMagic Intensity Pro 4k costs £165.98 here in the UK, it would seem to be rather cheaper than subscribing to Adobe. Runs on PC or Mac.

    Exactly, you also need to buy hardware to get video in to FCPX as well so you’d probably end up buying BMD anyway as it’s so cheap.

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