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  • OT – RAID Question

    Posted by Max Frank on February 22, 2012 at 9:37 am

    Hi,

    Sorry if I’m asking in the wrong place.

    I don’t have the budget for an external [or internal] RAID 5 unit, or similar.

    So, my plan is to do the following:

    I have 4 x 1TB drives inside my Mac Pro. 1 TB is for the OS, etc. 3 TB’s are for data.

    I plan to use the 3TB’s and make them RAID O.

    I have a 3TB External FW drive that will be connected to the Mac at all times which, I run set ChronoSync to run a backup 2 times a day.

    This way I can [ostensibly] get the sped benefit of a RAID, and I’ll have to be diligent with my backups in case one of the RAID drives fail.

    Make sense? Or am I doing something foolish?

    Thanks,

    Wayne

    Rafael Amador replied 14 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    February 22, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    [Wayne Marx] “I plan to use the 3TB’s and make them RAID O.”
    Hi wayne,
    I may be wrong, but I think that RAID-0 works with two HDs writing half of the data on each driver.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Tom Matthies

    February 22, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    I believe that the RAID 0 configuration is not just limited to two drives. I still run an older Ciprico RAID (it just won’t die!) that has five drives configured as RAID 0.

    E=MC2+/-2db

  • Max Frank

    February 22, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Thanks Guys for taking the time to answer…

    So Tom, I should be good to go.

    Any gotchas?

    W

  • David Roth weiss

    February 22, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “I may be wrong, but I think that RAID-0 works with two HDs writing half of the data on each drive”

    That’s actually RAID-1, which mirrors drive 1 to drive 2, thus creating redundancy.

    RAID-0 is a group of drives all striped together for max throughput, but no protection or redundancy. You can stripe as many drives as you’d like, with theoretical throughput going up with every drive added – i.e. four drives striped together as RAID-0 have nearly 4X the throughput of a single drive.

    David Roth Weiss
    ProMax Systems
    Burbank
    DRW@ProMax.com
    http://www.ProMax.com

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

  • Max Frank

    February 22, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    David,

    Thanks a lot.

    Coming from you, I’ll take that as the final word 😉

    All the best,

    Wayne

  • Max Frank

    February 23, 2012 at 8:31 am

    David,

    One last question:

    Does it matter if I’m using different drive brands [ie, Seagate, Hitachi], and different sizes, [ie, 1TB & 2TB]?

    Again, this is for a software RAID 0 inside the Mac Pro.

    Thanks,

    Wayne

  • Thomas Morter-laing

    February 23, 2012 at 9:23 am

    Yes it does, even if theyre the same size, different drives have different ways of working and different levels of cache etc- it may be fine but may go VERY slow. I would get 3 of the same drive.

    Tom Morter-Laing
    Twitter- @TomTheEditor
    _________________________________________________
    Editor, Certified Apple Product Proffessional, 2010
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    Equipment (not for ‘bragging’, but in case it’s relevant to future posts :D): Canon 7D, with Rode NTG2.
    iMac 27″ intel i7 3.4GHz, 12GB RAM, ATI HD 6970M [2GB GDDR5], 2x G-Tech G-RAID (0) 2TB over Thunderbolt via Sonnet Echo ExpressCard/34 Thunderbolt adapter and Tempo™ SATA ExpressCard/34. Elgato Turbo H264HD.

  • Max Frank

    February 23, 2012 at 10:00 am

    Thanks a lot – that complicates things a little for me, but it’s good to know.

    Tx,

    W

  • Rafael Amador

    February 23, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “RAID-0 is a group of drives all striped together for max throughput, but no protection or redundancy. You can stripe as many drives as you’d like, with theoretical throughput going up with every drive added – i.e. four drives striped together as RAID-0 have nearly 4X the throughput of a single drive.”
    Today I learnt something new.
    Perhaps because the all the drivers i have with RAID-0 are dual disk, I thought that that was the only way to set it.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • David Roth weiss

    February 23, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “I thought that that was the only way to set it.”

    RAID-1 is not something you’d typically want to use for editing anyway Rafa, it’s too expensive (you only get 50% useable storage). It’s better suited for things like copying SD or P2 cards in the field (because it essentially creates an instant backup), or for system drive redundancy as in the dedicated two-drive RAID-1 enclosure I reviewed here: https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Stardom-Pro-Review/1.

    And, for the record, the big enclosures you see from all the manufacturers, which are typically configured as RAID-5 these days, could also be configured as RAID-0, just like your 2-drive enclosures from G-Tech, but RAID-5 protected storage has an advantage in that you are safe should any single drive fail. Plus, you only lose about 10% of your storage volume and little only a very slight performance hit in return for the protection you gain.

    David Roth Weiss
    ProMax Systems
    Burbank
    DRW@ProMax.com
    http://www.ProMax.com

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

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