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OT: Cool Features on the Sony SRW-5800 HDCAM SR
Hey Guys,
Got to demo Sony decks and monitors in the HDCAM SR area for Sony at NAB. The big hit was the SRW-5800 HDCAM SR deck.It does twice speed ingest into 2 editing programs (Quantel iQ and DVS Clipster), and hopefully Avid and Apple (AJA and BMD) will support that as well in future releases. Time is money: indeed.
You can record and playback 1080P at 60fps. Cool mastering format and future proof HD format.
The coolest thing is that the deck is now a “network appliance” in that its connectivity (it has an ethernet port-Gig-E) allows it to live on a network, so it can be controlled that way. The program interface lives in a web browser, so anyone with the right IP addresses may have access to the deck.
It also uses the port to create .dpx or Cineon files from tape to your storage volume over Gig-E. These files can then be accessed throughout the network (frame speed conversion is around 6fps). With Glue Tools, you can edit these .dpx files right inside FCP (note: you’ll need a high speed array for that).
The Export function has two options: create a HDCAM SR stream (with crop and LUT downcoversions if you like) back to tape or use HDCAM SR tape to store those .dpx or cineon files as data. The advantage would be a storage format with frames you can actually view (unlike LT03 tape or the like).
This is good news for high-end post facilities who are increasingly working with .dpx files. Sony also announced a player version of this deck, the SRW-5100. If anyone has any questions, shoot.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
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No set price, but Sony says 20% off what the 5800 is at $68,000. So, in the mid-50s perhaps.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
wow, i didn’t know the 5800 was that cheap. (LOL)
i thought it was $100k+
well that’s a little closer to earth.Paul Provost
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They get expensive FAST when you add all the good stuff like format converter board, legacy format boards, 444, etc…
But these new options on the 5800 sound stellar! thanks Kevin
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Yes, fully loaded it will run you closer to $100K. I should have qualified that.
Option boards include the File Transfer over Gig-E that I mentioned, the HDCAM/DigiBeta playback board, The HDCAM SR HQ board (880 megabit quality using dual link), the 4:4:4 RGB board, and the format conversion board,
Just noticed the press release here: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/105/859317
Note that the 5800 cannot record standard HDCAM, only playback. It also does not have dynamic audio tracking, nor does it do pre-read edits. For those functions, you will need the 5500. Sony says that there are no plans to discontinue this model.
At the booth, I was using 4:4:4 .dpx files derived from tape in Shake. Pulling keys were very easy with this footage. Keylight yielded excellent results.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
[Kevin Monahan] “use HDCAM SR tape to store those .dpx or cineon files as data. The advantage would be a storage format with frames you can actually view (unlike LT03 tape or the like).
“Do I read it right? You can record .dpx to HDCAM-SR over Ethernet and when you play this tape you see the picture?
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Michael,
There are two ways to export .dpx files to HDCAM SR tape: as data or as a video stream.The data tape will not play back, you can just jog-shuttle through the frames. If the .dpx files are used to create a video stream, you can play that back.
Hope that clears things up.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
[Kevin Monahan] “The data tape will not play back, you can just jog-shuttle through the frames”
Yeah, right. HDCAM SR tape even at 880 megabit/sec is less than half the bandwidth needed for 2k DPX. Jog/shuttle is good enough.
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Shuttling through HD and 2K files is easy. 4K files are a little more sluggish.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
[Aaron Neitz] “They get expensive FAST when you add all the good stuff like format converter board, legacy format boards, 444, etc… “
Correct
I was told the fully configured deck at retail was over $120K
gary adcock
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